On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 8:37 AM Dr. David Alan Gilbert <> wrote:
* Cornelia Huck () wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 18:37:56 +0000
> "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <> wrote:
>
> > * Cornelia Huck () wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:06:25 +0000
> > > "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <> wrote:
> > >Â Â
> > > > So these are all moving this 1/3 forward - has anyone got comments on
> > > > the transport specific implementations?Â
> > >
> > > No comment on pci or mmio, but I've hacked something together for ccw.
> > > Basically, one sense-type ccw for discovery and a control-type ccw for
> > > activation of the regions (no idea if we really need the latter), both
> > > available with ccw revision 3.
> > >
> > > No idea whether this will work this way, though...Â
> >
> > That sounds (from a shm perspective) reasonable; can I ask why the
> > 'activate' is needed?
>
> The activate interface is actually what I'm most unsure about; maybe
> Halil can chime in.
>
> My basic concern is that we don't have any idea how the guest will use
> the available memory. If the shared memory areas are supposed to be
> mapped into an inconvenient place, the activate interface gives the
> guest a chance to clear up that area before the host starts writing to
> it.
I'm expecting the host to map it into an area of GPA that is out of the
way - it doesn't overlap with RAM.
Given that, I'm not sure why the guest would have to do any 'clear up' -
it probably wants to make a virtual mapping somewhere, but again that's
upto the guest to do when it feels like it.
This is what we do with Vulkan as well.
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> I'm not really enthusiastic about that interface... for one, I'm not
> sure how this plays out at the device type level, which should not
> really concern itself with transport-specific handling.
I'd expect the host side code to give an area of memory to the transport
and tell it to map it somewhere (in the QEMU terminology a MemoryRegion
I think).
I wonder if this could help: the way we're running Vulkan at the moment, what we do is add a the concept of a MemoryRegion with no actual backing:
https://android-review.googlesource.com/q/topic:%22qemu-user-controlled-hv-mappings%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged)
and it would be connected to the entire PCI address space on the shared memory address space realization. So it's kind of like a sparse or deferred MemoryRegion.
When the guest actually wants to map a subregion associated with the host memory,
on the host side, we can call the hypervisor to map the region, based on giving the device implementation the functions KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION and analogs.
This has the advantage of a smaller contact area between shm and qemu,
where the device level stuff can operate at a separate layer from MemoryRegions which is more transport level.
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Similarly in the guest, I'm expecting the driver for the device to
ask for a pointer to a region with a particular ID and that goes
down to the transport code.Â
> Another option would be to map these into a special memory area that
> the guest won't use for its normal operation... the original s390
> (non-ccw) virtio transport mapped everything into two special pages
> above the guest memory, but that was quite painful, and I don't think
> we want to go down that road again.
Can you explain why?
Dave
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > > diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> > > index 836ee5236939..7f379bca932e 100644
> > > --- a/content.tex
> > > +++ b/content.tex
> > > @@ -2078,6 +2078,8 @@ virtio:
> > >Â #define CCW_CMD_READ_VQ_CONF 0x32
> > >Â #define CCW_CMD_SET_VIRTIO_REV 0x83
> > >Â #define CCW_CMD_READ_STATUS 0x72
> > > +#define CCW_CMD_GET_REGIONS 0x14
> > > +#define CCW_CMD_MAP_REGIONS 0x93
> > >Â \end{lstlisting}
> > >Â
> > >Â \subsubsection{Notifications}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio
> > > @@ -2170,7 +2172,9 @@ The following values are supported:
> > >Â \hline
> > >Â 2Â Â Â Â & 0Â Â Â & <empty>Â Â& CCW_CMD_READ_STATUS support \\
> > >Â \hline
> > > -3-n   &    &     Â& reserved for later revisions \\
> > > +3Â Â Â Â & 0Â Â Â & <empty>Â Â& CCW_CMD_GET_REGIONS and CCW_CMD_MAP_REGIONS support \\
> > > +\hline
> > > +4-n   &    &     Â& reserved for later revisions \\
> > >Â \hline
> > >Â \end{tabular}
> > >Â
> > > @@ -2449,6 +2453,72 @@ command. Some legacy devices will support two-stage queue indicators, though,
> > >Â and a driver will be able to successfully use CCW_CMD_SET_IND_ADAPTER to set
> > >Â them up.
> > >Â
> > > +\subsubsection{Handling Shared Memory Regions}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Initialization / Handling Shared Memory Regions}
> > > +
> > > +The CCW_CMD_GET_REGIONS command allows the driver to discover shared memory
> > > +regions provided by the device, if any.
> > > +
> > > +The driver provides a pointer to a 4096 byte buffer that is filled out by
> > > +the device:
> > > +
> > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > +Â struct shared_regions_info {
> > > +Â Â be64 num_regions;
> > > +Â Â struct shared_region_desc regions[];
> > > +Â };
> > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > +
> > > +The buffer contains 0 or more shared region descriptors, as specified
> > > +by \field{num_regions}. If the devices does not provide shared regions,
> > > +\field{num_regions} is 0. Otherwise, the shared region descriptors have
> > > +the following format:
> > > +
> > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > +struct shared_region_desc {
> > > +Â Â Â Â be64 addr;
> > > +Â Â Â Â be64 len;
> > > +Â Â Â Â u8 id;
> > > +Â Â Â Â u8 pad[3];
> > > +}
> > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > +
> > > +\field{addr} is the guest-physical address of the region with a length of
> > > +\field{len}, identified by \field{id}. The contents of \field{pad} are
> > > +unpredictable, although it is recommended that the device fills in zeroes.
> > > +
> > > +To activate or deactivate a shared memory region, the device uses the
> > > +CCW_CMD_MAP_REGIONS command. It takes the following payload:
> > > +
> > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > +struct shared_region_ctrl {
> > > +Â Â Â Â u8 id;
> > > +Â Â Â Â u8 activate;
> > > +Â Â Â Â u8 pad[2];
> > > +}
> > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > +
> > > +\field{id} denotes the shared memory region that is the target of the command,
> > > +while \field{activate} specifies whether the region should be activated (if 1)
> > > +or deactivated (if 0). When activated, the device makes the guest-physical
> > > +address of the region available as a shared memory region.
> > > +
> > > +\devicenormative{\paragraph}{Handling Shared Memory Regions}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Initialization / Handling Shared Memory Regions}
> > > +
> > > +The device MUST reject the CCW_CMD_GET_REGIONS and CCW_CMD_MAP_REGIONS
> > > +commands if not at least revision 3 has been negotiated.
> > > +
> > > +The device MUST NOT read from or write to the region before it has been
> > > +activated by the driver or after it has been deactivated by the driver.
> > > +
> > > +If the driver reads from or writes to an address specified to a region that is
> > > +not activated by the driver, it MUST treat this read or write as a normal
> > > +read or write operation.
> > > +
> > > +\drivernormative{\paragraph}{Handling Shared Memory Regions}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Initialization / Handling Shared Memory Regions}
> > > +
> > > +The driver MUST NOT treat the guest-physical address of a region as a shared
> > > +memory region before it has activated it or after it has deactivated it.
> > > +
> > >Â \subsection{Device Operation}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Operation}
> > >Â
> > >Â \subsubsection{Host->Guest Notification}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Operation / Host->Guest Notification}Â
> > --
> > Dr. David Alan Gilbert / / Manchester, UK
>
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