RE: Questions on Document submission

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RE: Questions on Document submission
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Jean-Jacques,

 

I'll 
try to answer the best I can.  Please let me know if the answers are not 
clear, or if you have additional questions.  I expect these kinds of 
difficulties to lead to clarifiying edits to the text. 

 

See 
>> below.

Thanks,

Eric

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Jean-Jacques Dubray 
  [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 
  9:57 PM
To: Newcomer, Eric; ws-caf
Subject: Questions on 
  Document submission

  
Eric:

  
 

  
I 
  have a few questions about the documents that you provided. I don't know who 
  is the best person to address these questions:

  
 

  
primer:

  
p11: 
  a Web Service is identified ... on the header...   -> in the 
  header of what ? every message that his this service, in an initialization 
  message?

  
 

  
>> In the simplest case, where the 
  composite Web services take responsibility for managing their own context, it 
  would be every message in an interaction.  Meaning that the appearance of 
  the context URI in the header of the message indicates that the Web service 
  requester is asking the Web service receiver to participate in the same 
  composite application, by definition sharing the same 
  context.

  
 

  
primer and ws-cf: 

  
I am 
  trying to establish a distinction between coordination and composite apps and 
  I am having difficulty. It seems that a coordinator is both a part of a 
  composite app (providing its services to the CA), and managing several 
  CAs.

  
 

  
>> The main difference a 
  coordinator brings is that it provides a software agent to manage context on 
  behalf of the Web services participating in a composite application.  In 
  this case, instead of simply sharing context, Web services also register 
  themselves with the coordinator so that the coordinator can take care of 
  quality of service items such as persisting the context, ensuring every Web 
  service in the composite has a consistent view of the context, and that the 
  coordinator can also drive additional protocols across the participants that 
  register (such as transactional protocols).

  
 

  
What 
  is the relationship between coordination and orchestration? (participants, 
  activities, coordination points, ...). Is coordination a special form of 
  orchestration?

  
 

  
>> Coordination plays a supporting 
  role to orchestration, managing context where system and/or persistent data 
  needs to be shared among serviecs in the composite, and recovery protocols in 
  the case of failure handling during the execution of an orchestration 
  flow.

  
 

  
thanks,

  
 

  
Jean-Jacques 
  
tel: 425-649-6584 
  
Cell: 508-333-7634 
  

  
    

    
-----Original Message-----
From: Newcomer, Eric 
    [mailto:] 
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 
    9:06 AM
To: ws-caf
Subject: [ws-caf] Document 
    submission

    
Dear WS-CAF TC 
    Members,

    
 

    
On behalf of the 
    companies sponsoring the WS-CAF collaborative effort, Arjuna Technologies, 
    Fujitsu Software, IONA Technologies, Oracle Corporation, and Sun 
    Microsystems, I am very pleased to submit the WS-CAF set of specifications 
    (WS-Context, WS-Coordination Framework, and WS-Transaction Management, along 
    with the Primer) to OASIS under royalty free terms and 
    conditions.

    
 

    
The WS-CAF 
    companies listed above are the authors and copyright holders of these 
    specifications, which from this point forward will be under control of the 
    OASIS WS-CAF Technical Comittee.  The purpose of submitting these 
    specifications is to allow them to be progressed toward OASIS standards by 
    the TC.

    
 

    
Regards,

    
 

    
Eric 
    Newcomer

    
IONA 
    Technologies