RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: [ws-rx] Proposed list of issues for discussion on 10/13 conf-call

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RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: [ws-rx] Proposed list of issues for discussion on 10/13 conf-call
That's Editor-done. Please see attached for the issues 
process and statuses.

  

  
  From: Doug Davis [mailto:] 
  
Sent: Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 13:52 PM
To: Patil, 
  Sanjay
Cc: Anish Karmarkar; Christopher B Ferris; Marc Goodner; 
  
Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: 
  [ws-rx] Proposed list of issues for discussion on 10/13 
  conf-call

  

well, I'd like add a new state 
  that says "the editors have done their job but the TC has not reviewed it yet" 
  - I really think we need to be able to see the editor's TODO list. 
  
-Doug 

  
    
    

      "Patil, Sanjay" 
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10/12/2005 03:28 PM 

      
        
          
          

            
              
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              RE: [ws-rx] Proposed list of issues for discussion on 10/13 
              conf-call

        
          
          

            
            

Yes Marc, you did not provide us any opportunity to blame you 
  so far but
then why should we lose any opportunity :-)

I agree with 
  you that we may not need additional status as long as the
issues list gets 
  update soon enough. Personally if the issue list is
updated before Monday 
  noon, that helps me a lot since that's when I send
out the proposed list of 
  issues and it will be good to refer the latest
issues 
  list.

Thanks,
Sanjay 

> -----Original 
  Message-----
> From: Marc Goodner [mailto:] 
  
> Sent: Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 11:49 AM
> To: Christopher B 
  Ferris; Anish Karmarkar
> Cc: 
> 
  Subject: [ws-rx-editors] RE: [ws-rx] Proposed list of issues 
> for 
  discussion on 10/13 conf-call
> 
> Moving to editors list to 
  discuss the issue state proposal here.
> 
> I'm not going to 
  defend not updating it, I've been slow. My 
> apologies. I
> will 
  only point out that I've only missed one window if 
> opportunity 
  for
> update which was the last call.
> 
> Now how many 
  intermediate states do we want? Right now when an issue
> gets an 
  accepted proposal I move it to pending so the editors can pick
> it up. 
  I think, personally, that it is madness that we are resolving
> issues 
  and assigning AIs for someone to actually propose 
> clear text 
  for
> the editors to use. Now I have been moving those to pending when 
  that
> happens so they should go out of the Open list. I made some 
  
> mistakes in
> the last update and forgot to more a couple to 
  pending, 
> perhaps this is
> where your complaint is coming from 
  Chris. Now do we really 
> want another
> state that says almost 
  pending?
> 
> I think your real complaint is that I'm not updating 
  the issue list
> often enough. I agree at least since the last call. I 
  recommend we do
> not add another state to the issue list.
> 
  
> Now on to the update problem. I try to update the issue list 
> 
  soon after
> the minutes come out (with varying success). I will not 
  agree 
> to update
> the issue list this any more often than this 
  as things stand today. I
> actually try not to update it more than this 
  since it always 
> changes the
> URI of the issue list. If we can 
  get a stable URI to the issue list I
> could agree to do incremental 
  updates in addition to the one after the
> call. That would also make it 
  a lot easier to share the responsibility
> so that other editors can 
  move their items from pending to done when
> they update a draft with a 
  resolution without making everyone 
> in the TC
> wonder if they 
  have the latest version of the issue list.
> 
> So what's going on 
  with CVS? Is that our answer for getting a 
> stable URI
> and 
  making this thing easier to update?
> 
> -----Original 
  Message-----
> From: Anish Karmarkar [mailto:] 
  
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:25 AM
> To: Christopher B 
  Ferris
> Cc: 
> Subject: Re: [ws-rx] 
  Proposed list of issues for discussion on 10/13
> conf-call
> 
  
> Christopher B Ferris wrote:
> > 
> > 
  Sanjay/Paul,
> > 
> 
> <snip/>
> 
> 
  > 
> > Finally, I would like to make a request of the issues list 
  
> editor. It 
> > would REALLY help if the issues
> > 
  list could be updated to reflect the issues resolved as soon as
> 
  possible 
> > after they are resolved.
> > It has been over 
  2 weeks since the issues list was last 
> updated. Thus,
> 
  
> > two weeks of issues
> > resolutions are not reflected 
  in the list.
> > 
> > I know what is involved in maintaining 
  the list and that the editors
> are 
> > busy with other 
  responsibilities
> > (aren't we all!), but possibly the addition of 
  an 
> intermediate status 
> > that removes an issue from 
  "open"
> > to a status that means that it has been resolved but the 
  specifics
> have 
> > not been documented in the issues
> 
  > list would be in order for times like these when there isn't 
  enough
> time 
> > to devote to making a full pass
> > 
  at updating issues with the details of their resolutions, 
> etc. It is 
  
> > quite difficult to have to compare the
> > issues list 
  with the minutes from the past meetings to 
> determine which
> 
  
> > issues are really open and
> > which have simply not 
  been updated to reflect the decisions 
> of the TC.
> > 
  
> 
> +1
> -Anish
> --
> 
> 
  <snip/>
> 

2005-Sep-21-ws-rx-Spec Issue Process.ppt