Marc Goodner wrote:
> Ah, now I understand. I still think it would be good if we could use
> public links to the drafts going forward so I stick by my comment that
> we should point this out to the full TC and ask that they use the proper
> link format.
>
+1
I sure am guilty of including member-only links in emails/issues/etc.
It is just so easy to do that, since you have to go to the member page
to do other things (such as upload docs, see the docs other than
CDs/issue-list, look at minutes, etc) and everything referenced from the
member-page is member-only.
> On the CD2 point specifically, I think that the current CD2 link is
> tagged as "candidate" so I didn't want to use that one.
> I though our TC
> administrator was going to put the CD at the proper location which was
> why there isn't a just CD02 link in Kavi other than the candidate link.
> So that was the link I was waiting for. I guess I know what it's going
> to be so I could do an optimistic update.
You are right about that.
BTW the 'location' value in CD 2 points to
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200510/wsrm-1.1-spec-cd-02.pdf. If
you are going to do an optimistic update, that is the URL that should be
used (rather than the one in my previous email -- which pointed to
www.oasis-open.org). In addition to the PDFs the CD 2 package had other
docs (such as schema/wsdl/RDDL) which MUST be hosted at
docs.oasis-open.org (our spec requires it).
>
> Marc Goodner
> Technical Diplomat
> Microsoft Corporation
> Tel: (425) 703-1903
> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/mrgoodner/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anish Karmarkar [mailto:]
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:50 PM
> To: Marc Goodner
> Cc: Doug Davis; ; Patil, Sanjay; Paul
> Fremantle
> Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] next CD? (or how to translate a member-only
> doc URL to a public doc URL)
>
> Marc,
>
> I did not mean to imply that you (or anyone) should scrub the current
> issues list of member-only links. I thought you were waiting for the CD
> 2 draft to be public and I was merely point out (and sharing my
> experience with KAVI public/member-only URL behavior) that it already
> was public, given the weirdness of KAVI.
>
> -Anish
> --
>
> Marc Goodner wrote:
>
>>Anish,
>>
>>I have been using the public urls for the mail links for a long time.
>
> It
>
>>is rare I mess that up anymore. The doc ones, honestly I use whatever
>>I'm given.
>>
>>Can the chair this week please ask the TC to use the public links when
>>referring to TC docs from now on to help in this? It would be good to
>>capture Anish's notes below on this in the minutes to aid the members
>
> in
>
>>following through with this.
>>
>>I'm not going to go through the issue list and scrub out member only
>>links, there just isn't any return on the investment of that time. If
>>someone else wants to, have at it. Just let me know when you are going
>>to do it so we don't step on each other's edits.
>>
>>I'm editing the issue list right now. I expect it will get updated
>>today.
>>
>>It would be much better if the staff would fix Kavi. I can't even
>
> begin
>
>>to comment on how stupid it is to have a protected link that is also
>>public that just introduces problems rather than solving any. See the
>>above and the TC Process document for more details on how asinine
>
> Kavi's
>
>>behavior in this regard is.
>>
>>Marc Goodner
>>Technical Diplomat
>>Microsoft Corporation
>>Tel: (425) 703-1903
>>Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/mrgoodner/
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Anish Karmarkar [mailto:]
>>Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:12 PM
>>To: Marc Goodner
>>Cc: Doug Davis; ; Patil, Sanjay;
>
> Paul
>
>>Fremantle
>>Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] next CD? (or how to translate a
>
> member-only
>
>>doc URL to a public doc URL)
>>
>>Marc,
>>
>>I have noticed that like the email archive, every document in KAVI (at
>>least in WSRX) has a member-only URL and a public URL.
>>
>>The member only URLs are typically:
>>
>
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/<some-nu
>
>>meric-id>/<doc-name>
>>
>>The public URLs are typically:
>>
>
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/<some-numeric-id>/<doc
>
>>-name>
>>
>>If you see a member-only URL for a doc you can translate the URL to a
>>public URL be using the appropriate prefix (replace
>>"apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx" with "committees" in the URL)
>>
>>For example the member-only CD2 URLs are:
>>
>
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/16271/ws
>
>>rm-1.1-spec-cd-02.pdf
>>
>
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/download.php/16273/ws
>
>>rmp-1.1-spec-cd-02.pdf
>>
>>The equivalent public URLs are:
>>
>
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/16271/wsrm-1.1-spec-cd
>
>>-02.pdf
>>
>
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/16273/wsrmp-1.1-spec-c
>
>>d-02.pdf
>>
>>In fact the only important thing is the <some-numeric-id> everything
>>else is irrelevant.
>>
>>The URLs:
>>
>
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/16271/wsrm-1.1-spec-cd
>
>>-02.pdf
>>
>
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/16271/complete-garbage
>
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/16271/really-important
>
>>all return the same document.
>>
>>Not sure if you are waiting for public URLs for updating the issues
>>list, but thought I would mention. All of this doesn't help if things
>>need to happen on http://docs.oasis-open.org.
>>
>>-Anish
>>--
>>
>>Marc Goodner wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Also, it isn't our fault (that I can tell) but it sure would be nice
>>
>>if
>>
>>
>>>the CD2 could get posted before we get to CD3. How long have we been
>>>waiting on an answer now on that? Are we going to get to PR before any
>>
>>
>>>of our approved CDs get posted? Honestly I've been sitting on a bunch
>>
>>of
>>
>>
>>>the "done" issues that need to be changed to "closed" so that I can
>>
>>add
>>
>>
>>>a remark pointing to the CD2 doc that closes them. This is really
>>>starting to hurt.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Sanjay or Paul, have you guys heard anything yet?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Marc Goodner
>>>
>>>Technical Diplomat
>>>
>>>Microsoft Corporation
>>>
>>>Tel: (425) 703-1903
>>>
>>>Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/mrgoodner/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>*From:* Marc Goodner [mailto:]
>>>*Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2006 1:32 PM
>>>*To:* Doug Davis;
>>>*Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] next CD?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I have plans to review today, at least as a first pass. I expect I'll
>>>get though a deeper review at the latest tomorrow afternoon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Was a CD3 candidate asked for by the TC? Seems premature if not, I
>>>suggest bringing this up on Thursday's call and being ready to post it
>>
>>
>>>afterwards. Not that I'm opposed, I'm actually inclined to think we
>>>should do a CD before the F2F.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Marc Goodner
>>>
>>>Technical Diplomat
>>>
>>>Microsoft Corporation
>>>
>>>Tel: (425) 703-1903
>>>
>>>Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/mrgoodner/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>*From:* Doug Davis [mailto:]
>>>*Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2006 1:13 PM
>>>*To:*
>>>*Subject:* [ws-rx-editors] next CD?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>All,
>>> I just did a quick scan of the diffs between the last CD and the WDs
>>
>>
>>>we have available. I found two minor typos in the core spec but
>>
>>nothing
>>
>>
>>>serious enough to regen everything. Has anyone else looked at 'em
>>>(aside from Anish) - I'd like to post 'em to the TC today as candidate
>>
>>
>>>CD 3.
>>>thanks
>>>-Doug
>>>
>>
>>
