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Mary McRae <>
Date
2007-03-01T03:10:41+00:00
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RE: [ws-rx-editors] [Fwd: RE: Please can you take a look at these specs before our call]
re: #2 -- I'd definitely prefer it; meant to suggest 
it.

 

m

  

  
  From: Doug Davis [mailto:] 
  
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:54 PM
To: 
  ; 
Cc: 
  
Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] 
  [Fwd: RE: Please can you take a look at these specs before our 
  call]

  

ok - some of those errors were 
  really weird and I know I didn't do those since the PDF versions looked right. 
    
Anyway, comments about each 
  edit inline below.... 

Couple of 
  lingering questions... 
1 - While the 
  date on the docs is now "March 1st" I didn't change the URLs on the "This 
  version" to 200703 because we're not going to have a namespace change, so it 
  seemed to make more sense that the URLs for the spec and the Namespace should 
  have the same dates - even if they don't match the publication date of the 
  doc.  Thoughts?  
2 - Should the "Latest verson" URLs have "v1.1" in them?  Right 
  now they appear as:  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/wsrm.pdf 
     should it be: 
   http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/v1.1/wsrm.pdf   
   ? 

Mary - thanks for the 
  review!! 

thanks
-Doug
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Please can 
  you take a look at these specs before our call
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 
  17:27:19 -0500
From: Mary McRae 
  <>
Reply-To: 
  <>
Organisation: OASIS
To: 'Paul 
  Fremantle' <>
References: 
  <>

Hi Paul,

  Here's some 
  comments - this was just a quick run-through as I'm 
really short on time 
  today/tomorrow with the impending
OS ballots, so I reserve the right to ask 
  you to fix something else once 
you have the actual documents prepared ;-) 
  I
don't think I've overlooked anything, but just in 
  case.

m

1. Title (3x):
should say "Version #.#" rather than 
  just title #.# 
Done

1a. Date (3x):
these 
  all have the original date on them yet the CD number has 
incremented - 
  date must correspond to date CD is
approved. 
This was because I wasn't sure what this spec would be (CD 
  or CS...) and used March 1st as the date.  Decided to be really 
  optimistic and changed them all to be CS01 - I updated the references between 
  each spec as well. Hopefully, I didn't miss any 
  links.

2. URIs (3x):
be sure to 
  list editable source as well as pdf and html (you have in the 
latest 
  version URIs but not in "this version" 
Done

2a. Latest Approved 
  Version URIs (3x):
This is intended to be a link similar to latest version 
  that will always 
bring up the latest approved version (assuming
at some 
  point in time unapproved versions (revisions to CDs, etc.) would 
also be 
  uploaded to docs). You can see numerous
examples 
  here:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/metadata.html#specURIs
Note 
  that use of "Latest Approved Version" is optional. 
Tied of all these links - so I opted for "optional" and 
  just removed this section  :-)

3. 
  URIs (MC):
be sure to list "previous version" URIs 
  
Done - since we can now point to 
  CD01

4. URIs (RM, RMP):
Wrong links 
  for "previous version" URIs (in 200702 subdir rather than 
  
200608) 
Done

WSRM: (note view 
  'final')
5. line 266:
change reference 
  to:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/v1.1/wss-v1.1-spec-os-SOAPMessageSecurity.pdf 
  
Done

Note that there's a published/approved errata for this spec; 
  you may 
want to link 
  to:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wss/v1.1/wss-v1.1-spec-errata-os-SOAPMessageSecurity.pdf 
  
Skipped this for now unless someone else 
  really wants it.

6. line 
  281:
double URI? 
Fixed

7. line 1526:
all 
  the URIs are running together 
Fixed and frick'n odd

8. 
  line 1797:
same as #7 
Fixed

WSRMP: (note view 
  'final')
9. line 8:
hypertext link differs from the displayed 
  text 
Fixed

10. lines 
  56-58:
something has gone awry 
Fixed

11. line 203:
see 
  #5 above 
Fixed

12. line 440:
all 
  the URIs are running together 
Fixed

WSMC: (note view 
  'final')

13. line 240:
see #5 above 
Fixed

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul 
  Fremantle [mailto:] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 
  5:32 PM
> To: Mary McRae
> Subject: Please can you take a look at 
  these specs before our call
> 
> Mary
> 
> Please can 
  you review the specs as below.
> 
> Paul
> 
> -------- 
  Original Message --------
> Subject:           
         RE: [ws-rx-editors] [Fwd: Re: Help please 
  [about
> date-less/version-less spec URIs]]
> Date:     
               Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:24:50 
  -0700
> From:                 
   Doug Davis <>
> To:       
            
   <>
> CC:       
             Mary McRae 
  <>, "'Paul Fremantle'"
> 
  <>, , 
> 
  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
  Mary/Robin
>    thanks.  I've updated the docs as you've 
  suggested.  The 
> latest versions should be in our "CD6" folder, 
  here:
>   
> 
  http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/doc
> 
  uments.php
> 
> thanks
> -Doug
> 
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> 
> *"Mary McRae" <>* Sent by: 
  Mary 
> McRae <>
> 
> 02/23/2007 
  04:52 PM
> Please respond to
> 
  <>
> 
> 
>     
               
> To
>   
                 Doug 
  Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "'Paul Fremantle'" 
> <> 
  cc
>                 
   <>, 
> 
  <> Subject
>         
           RE: [ws-rx-editors] [Fwd: Re: Help please 
  [about 
> date-less/version-less spec URIs]]
> 
> 
> 
                   
> 
  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Doug,
> 
>   
   Looks good. Yes, it's okay to include namespace and 
> conformance 
  in section 1; note that with the upcoming changes 
> to the TC Process 
  there will be a new section created for 
> conformance requirements but 
  these docs will be through the 
> cycle before those changes go into 
  effect.
> Multiple columns for acknowledgements is fine.
> 
  
> A couple of things:
> 
> Latest Approved Version URI: 
  This is intended to act in the 
> same manner as "Latest Version URI" 
  except that it would skip 
> over any working drafts or revisions that 
  had not yet been 
> approved by the TC (i.e. CD 01 R 02 is unofficial 
  until 
> approved as CD 02)
> 
> lines 56 and 62:  add 
  a trailing slash to URI
> 
> All URIs should be created as 
  Hyperlinks so that a reader can 
> actually navigate to the location 
  directly from the document. 
> If you highlight the link itself, then go 
  to "insert" -> 
> Hyperlink it will bring up a dialog box. By default 
  it should 
> create a link to the same text that you highlighted. Just 
  
> save and you now have a navigable link.
> 
> Trademarks - 
  according to the policy, all terms related to 
> the specification and 
  the TC are to be listed - this would 
> include "WS-ReliableMessaging", 
  wsrm, WS-RX, etc.
> 
> That's everything that's jumping out at 
  me.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> 
  --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
  ----------
> *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:] *
> Sent:* 
  Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:44 PM*
> To:* Paul Fremantle*
> Cc:* 
  ; ;
> 
  *
> Subject:* Re: [ws-rx-editors] [Fwd: Re: 
  Help please [about 
> date-less/version-less spec URIs]]
> 
  
> 
> All,
>   I've gone thru the RM spec and 
  reformatted things per the 
> latest template.  In terms of edits 
  to the doc, I tried to 
> not do any textual changes with the exception 
  of the following:
> - renamed it CD06 - should probably have been 
  optimistic and 
> called it CS  :-)
> - latest URI is now: 
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/wsrm.pdf
>     
   Robin - is this an ok URI?
> - moved the normative and 
  non-normative sections to the top 
> of the doc - per the 
  template
> - Robin/Mary - is it ok that we have other sections (like 
  
> 'conformance'
> and 'namespace' in section 1 ?)
> - 
  reformatting the contributors section - each person got 
> their own 
  line now - Robin/Mary - can we do multiple-columns 
> or does it have to 
  be this way? Its a lot of space.
> 
> The doc is here:
> 
   
> 
  http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/dow
> 
  nload.php/22537/wsrm-1.1-spec-cd-06.doc 
> 
> 
> 
> 
  Mary/Robin - could I ask you guys to look over this doc to 
> see if it 
  conforms to the new template?  I tried to match all 
> of the 
  sections and formatting styles as best I could.
> 
> Editors - 
  please give this doc a scan.  Things to look for:
> - At times I 
  had to manually re-add some text/URLs (like in 
> the references 
  sections) to get things to format correctly.
> - And watch for variables 
  in the examplars (e.g. xs:string) 
> not being in italics
> - 
  paragraph numbering and bullets - tried to make sure we 
> were 
  consistent across the entire doc w.r.t. indenting etc...
> - missing 
  hyper-links - examples and code snippets were 
> removed on purpose, but 
  others should probably be there.
> - check bookmarks - I had to redo 
  them all by hand - for some 
> reason they were all messed up after I 
  moved the (non) 
> normative sections
> 
> Once people look 
  this over and are ok with it, then I'll move 
> on to RMP and 
  MC.
> 
> thanks
> -Doug
> 
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> *Paul Fremantle <>*
> 
> 02/19/2007 
  10:51 AM
> 
>               
     
> To
>             
       "" 
> 
  <>
> cc
>     
               
> Subject
> 
                   [ws-rx-editors] 
  [Fwd: Re: Help please [about 
> date-less/version-less spec 
  URIs]]
> 
> 
> 
>           
         
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
  
> 
> FYI here is Robin's advice for our URIs.
> 
> 
  Paul
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: 
  Help please [about date-less/version-less spec URIs]
> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 
  2007 09:42:08 -0500 (EST)
> From: Robin Cover 
  <>
> To: Paul Fremantle 
  <>
> CC: Robin Cover 
  <>
> References: 
  <>
> 
> Paul,
> 
> 
  Re:
> 
>   > I would have thought that we'd want a URL 
  that was 
> date-less as well as
>   > 
  version-less.
> 
> I apologize for failing to respond to your 
  request for advice 
> in a timely manner.  The request is quite 
  reasonable, as 
> seems to be proven by the successful W3C practice of 
  
> publishing its recommendation-track specifications at URIs 
  like:
> 
> Latest version: 
  http://www.w3.org/TR/xquery-semantics/
> Latest version: 
  http://www.w3.org/TR/ws-addr-core Latest 
> version: 
  http://www.w3.org/TR/xkms2/ Latest version: 
> 
  http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-part0/
> 
> Initially, when I saw the 
  proposal for "Something like"
> 
>   >     
       http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm
>   > 
          
   http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp
>   >     
       http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsmc
> 
> I 
  was stumped, because we have a commitment to use the 
> "directory URIs" 
  [slash "/" and slashless ""] as identifiers 
> for directory listings, 
  as in this current example:
> 
> 
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/
> 
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm
> 
> *That index listing is 
  ugly now, but we have plans to make it 
> more usable.
> 
> 
  The Naming Guidelines do require that specifications be 
> assigned a 
  "Latest Version:" URI, which is a URI alias 
> pointing to the resource 
  that is the current/latest at any 
> point in time.  See:
> 
  
> "Specification URIs"
> 
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/met
> 
  adata.html#specURIs
> 
> The OASIS membership provided clear 
  feedback (ASIS review) 
> that we should impose no single format for the 
  "Latest 
> Version:" URI -- allowing the TCs to select something 
  
> reasonable, suitable to their needs and sensibilities.
> 
  
> Some of the examples provided for "Latest Version:" URI are 
> 
  dateless, as you can see in the section "Specification URIs" 
> cited 
  above:
> 
> 
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/exampleTC/fruitMarkup/v2/fruit2.html
> 
  
> No examples are "version-less" though -- in part, because 
> 
  some reviewers asked that we NOT assume genetic continuity 
> between 
  [e.g.] DITA 1.0 and DITA 3.0, such as might be 
> implied by a 
  generic/version-agnostic URI like this, which 
> otherwise could serve 
  as the latest/dateless/version-less URI 
> for all 'DITA' specs.
> 
  
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/TR
> 
> Their argument 
  was that an entirely different group of people 
> might work on "DITA 
  3.0" than worked on "DITA 1.0", the the 
> DITA-3 people might not want 
  to be forced to use a URI that 
> implies "DITA 3.2" is the "latest" 
  version of the DITA 1.0 
> product, in close continuity with it.
> 
  
> We use the term "Version" in a fairly specific way in 
> 
  connection with identifying a specification version:
> 
> 
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/met
> 
  adata.html#version
> 
> I *do* encourage you to bring up this 
  issue with the WS-RX TC 
> editors, however, since selection of a 
  "Latest Version:" URI 
> is needed for wsrm, wsrmp, and wsmc.  In 
  the 
> WS-ReliableMessaging 1.1 spec here:
> 
> 
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200702/wsrm-1.1-spec-cd-05.pdf
> 
  
> the text says:
> 
>      Latest 
  Version:
>       
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200702
> 
> and that's not 
  what we have in mind; that's the NS URI.
> 
> The spec title page 
  has a dsignated place for the associated 
> NS URI(s), e.g.,
> 
  
>     Declared XML Namespaces:
>     
   http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/200702
> 
> I'll try 
  to make myself available, if needed, to help think 
> through (or review 
  candidates for) possible Latest Version 
> URIs suitable for the WS-RX 
  TC's specs.
> 
> Caveats:
> 
> * The TAB and Board are 
  considering options for a method of
>   using the concept/term 
  "normative" [or "official"]
>   format (XHTML vs. PDF vs. 
  EditableSource).  The
>   results might lead to a change in 
  the Naming Guidelines
>   so that there would be only one "Latest 
  Version:" URI
>   printed on a spec title page, not 2-3 URIs, as 
  in:
> 
>   Latest Version:
> 
>   
  http://example.com/fishing/fishML.pdf
>   
  http://example.com/fishing/fishML.doc
>   
  http://example.com/fishing/fishML.html
> 
> * The OASIS IT 
  programming team is preparing a new
>   URI aliasing tool (serving 
  some of the functions
>   of Apache mod_alias, mod_rewrite, etc.) 
  to give
>   us greater flexibility in handling the URI
> 
    aliasing mechanisms [server-side URI rewrite
>   in addition 
  to client-side redirect], but it's
>   not certain when that will 
  be activated.
>   ***Privately***: see a prototype here:
> 
  
>   http://docs3.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/
> 
>   
  Please don't publish that -- it might be buggy.
> 
> Again, I 
  sincerely apologize for not responding on time; 
> please forgive 
  me.
> 
> Best wishes.
> 
> Robin Cover
> 
  
> -------------
> 
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Paul Fremantle 
  wrote:
> 
>   > Robin
>   >
>   
  > Can you advise us on this one please?
>   >
>   
  > Paul
>   >
>   > -------- Original Message 
  --------
>   > Subject:           
         RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>   > 
  Date:                  Mon, 12 
  Feb 2007 07:19:01 -0500
>   > From:         
           Doug Davis <>
> 
    > To:                 
   Marc Goodner <>
>   > CC: 
                   'Mary McRae' 
  <>,
> 
>   
  > <>, Paul Fremantle 
> 
  <>, 'Robin
>   > Cover' 
  <>, 
> 
    > <>
>   
  >
>   >
>   >
>   >
> 
    > I would have thought that we'd want a URL that was 
> 
  date-less as well as
>   > version-less.  Something 
  like:
>   >         
   http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm
>   >     
       http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp
>   > 
          
   http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsmc
>   >
>   
  > That way even if we have a v.Next the URL would still not need to
> 
    > change.  Mary - is this possible?
>   >
> 
    > thanks
>   > -Doug
>   > 
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>   >
> 
    > *Marc Goodner <>*
>   
  >
>   > 02/11/2007 10:40 PM
>   >
> 
    >
>   > To
>   >       
             Paul Fremantle 
  <>,
> ""
>   > 
  <>
>   > cc
>   > 
                   Doug 
  Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "'Mary McRae'"
> 
  <>,
>   > 
  ""
>   > 
  <>, "'Robin Cover'"
>   
  > <>
>   > Subject
>   
  >                  RE: 
  [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>   >
>   >
> 
    >
>   >
>   >
>   
  >
>   >
>   >
>   > My reading is 
  that Dug has made all of the requested 
> changes except one
> 
    > we are still discussing. The open issue is what to use 
> 
  for the latest
>   > link in the doc.
>   
  >
>   > My recommendation is to just use the current 
  namespace. Mary has
>   > suggested a permanent latest URI could 
  be assigned for 
> this use. I'm not
>   > inherently 
  opposed to that but I'd prefer some more 
> discussion before
> 
    > putting it into practice.
>   >
>   > 
  -----Original Message-----
>   > From: Paul Fremantle 
  [mailto:]
>   > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 
  7:30 PM
>   > To: 
>   > 
  Cc: Marc Goodner; 'Doug Davis'; 'Mary McRae';
>   > 
  ; 'Robin Cover'
>   > Subject: 
  Re: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>   >
>   > I'd like 
  to thank Marc, Doug and Mary for all your 
> efforts this 
  weekend.
>   >
>   > Can anyone give me a brief 
  status update? I've seen a ton 
> of useful
>   > messages 
  but I haven't quite figured out what is still 
> needed before the 
  PR.
>   >
>   > Thanks
>   > 
  Paul
>   >
>   > Mary McRae wrote:
>   
  >   > We can also invent another URI to be used - like
> 
    >   > docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/v1.1/wsrm-v1.1.doc 
  
> etc. - that way
> even
>   >   > if the 
  date changes we're still talking about the 
> latest version
> of 
  the
>   >   > 1.1 spec ...
>   >   
  >
>   >   > m
>   >   >
> 
    >   >
>   > 
> 
  --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
  ----------
>   >   >     *From:* Marc Goodner 
  [mailto:]
>   >   >     
  *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 9:18 PM
>   >   > 
      *To:* Doug Davis; 
>   > 
    >     *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; 
  
>   >   >   
    *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     So on 2, yeah we don't have 
  anything like that. I 
> think the
> best we
>   > 
    >     can do is a link to the namespace as that could 
  eventually
> contain
>   >   >     the 
  previous/latest links there. The only other immediate
>   > 
    >     alternative I can think of would be the Public TC 
  page.
>   >   >
>   >   >
> 
    >   >
>   >   >     My vote 
  for now would be to use the namespace. 
> The reason is
> that 
  if
>   >   >     we progress with the same 
  namespace from this PR, 
> and I'm pretty
>   >   
  >     hopeful we will, then the CS will be in that 
> 
  location with a
> link to
>   >   >     
  the previous CD for the same namespace. That seems to best
> 
  satisfy
>   >   >     the intent.
> 
    >   >
>   >   >
>   > 
    >
>   >   >     *From:* Doug Davis 
  [mailto:]
>   >   >     *Sent:* 
  Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:38 PM
>   >   >   
    *To:* 
>   >   >   
    *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; Marc Goodner;
> 
  
>   >   >   
    *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   >   >
> 
    >   >
>   >   >     1. I'll 
  remove the [insert...] since, as Marc 
> said, I don't
> think 
  we
>   >   >     have any.
>   > 
    >     2. The guideline says:
>   >   
  >     A bookmarkable, version-agnostic, generic URI serving as 
  a
> URI alias
>   >   >     which is 
  always associated with the 
> latest/current specification
> 
    >   >     instance, thus having a changing 
  referent; it serves to
> identify and
>   >   > 
      directly locate each successive published instance of a
> 
  developing
>   >   >     specification, 
  through time [Label: Latest Version]
>   >   >   
    Do we have a URL like that?  As far as I know all 
> of our 
  URLs
> have
>   >   >     dates in them. 
   Can Oasis assign us a non-dated 
> set of URLs?
>   
  >   >     3. Done - as much as I could anyway :-)
> 
    >   >
>   >   >     Latest 
  zip is here:
>   >   >
>   >
> 
  http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/dow
> 
  nload.php/22331/CD05.zip
>   >   > 
  
>   >   >     (you guys are 
  probably sick of me sending huge zip files)
>   >   > 
      Will replace the individual files in the CD5 folder once
> 
  people 'ok'
>   >   >     it but I think I 
  still need those static URLs 
> mentioned in #2.
>   > 
    >
>   >   >     thanks
> 
    >   >     -Doug
>   >   > 
      ______________________________________________________
> 
    >   >     STSM  |  Web Services 
  Architect  |  IBM Software Group
>   >   > 
      (919) 254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  | 
   
>   >   >
>   > 
    >     *"Mary McRae" 
  <>*
>   >   >   
    Sent by: Mary McRae <>
>   > 
    >
>   >   >     02/11/2007 07:54 
  PM
>   >   >
>   >   >   
    Please respond to
>   >   >     
  <>
>   >   >
> 
    >   >
>   >   >
>   > 
    >     To
>   >   >
>   
  >   >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >     Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "'Marc Goodner'"
> 
    > <>
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     cc
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     "'Mary McRae'" 
  <>,
>   >   >     
  <>
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     Subject
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: 
  CD5.3
>   >   >
>   >   >
> 
    >   >
>   >   >
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   >   >   
    Before you do that ;-)
>   >   >
>   
  >   >     1. in all three spec files -- pay attention to 
  
> the last para
> of the
>   >   >   
    Notices section. It refers to OASIS' new 
> Trademark policy. 
  
> In the
>   >   >     first line 
  you'll see "[insert specific trademarked names,
>   >   
  >     abbreviations, etc. here]" - any terms that the 
> TC 
  believes
> should
>   >   >     be 
  trademarked should be listed there and the 
> boilerplate text
> 
    > removed.
>   >   >
>   > 
    >     2. also, for "latest version" the intent is to 
  
> use a URI that
> will
>   >   >   
    always bring up the most recent copy of the spec 
> (see samples 
  in
>   >   >     naming guidelines documents). 
  Oops - just found 
> another bad
> link on
>   > 
    >     the templates page.
>   >   
  >
>   >
> 
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASISSpecificationTemplat
> 
  eGuidelines.html
>   >   >     section 3.4.3 
  or here:
>   >   >
>   >
> 
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/met
> 
  adata.html#specURIs
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     3. I apparently also messed 
  up when I created the new
> templates for
>   >   
  >     OO (and possibly Word). There were supposed to be two 
  more
>   >   >     categories on the cover 
  page between Editors and Abstract:
>   >   >   
    Related Work
>   >   >     and
> 
    >   >     Declared XML Namespaces
>   
  >   >     (can be seen here:
>   >   
  >
>   >
> 
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASISSpecificationTemplat
> 
  eV3.0.html)
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     No penalties for not 
  including #3, but bonus 
> points awarded
> if you
>   
  >   >     do ;-)
>   >   >
> 
    >   >     I'm going to go watch the Grammys ... I 
  think you 
> guys have
> it under
>   >   > 
      control and we'll be all set for announcement tomorrow.
> 
    >   >
>   >   >     
  m
>   >   >
>   >   >
> 
    > 
> 
  --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
  ----------
>   >   >
>   >   > 
      *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:] *
>   > 
    >     Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:29 PM*
> 
    >   >     To:* Marc Goodner*
>   > 
    >     Cc:* Mary McRae; ;
> 
    >   >     
  *
>   >   >   
    Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   >   >   
    Actually, I was hoping you might be able to 
> generate new HTML 
  by
>   >   >     importing it into Word 
   :-)
>   >   >
>   >   > 
      thanks
>   >   >     
  -Doug
>   >   >     
  ______________________________________________________
>   > 
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   IBM Software Group
>   >   >     (919) 
  254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  
> 
    >   >
>   >   >     *Marc 
  Goodner <>*
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     02/11/2007 07:22 PM
> 
    >   >
>   >   >
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     To
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     Doug 
  Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, ""
>   > 
    >     <>
>   
  >   >
>   >   >     cc
> 
    >   >
>   >   >
>   > 
    >
>   >   >     Mary McRae 
  <>,
>   >   >     
  ""
>   >   >   
    <>
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     Subject
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: 
  CD5.3
>   >   >
>   >   >
> 
    >   >
>   >   >
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   >   >
> 
    >   >     Thanks for the quick turnaround on the 
  doc Dug.  
> Mary, thanks
> a ton
>   >   
  >     for staying engaged with us over the weekend.
> 
    >   >
>   >   >     A quick 
  scan and this looks good to me. It looks like the 
> correct
> 
    >   >     Notices now, but I defer to Mary on 
  that.
>   >   >
>   >   >   
    This one doesn't have the HTML in it. We're we 
> just going 
  to
> update
>   >   >     the previous 
  generated HTML by hand?
>   >   >     
   *
>   >   >     From:* Doug Davis 
  [mailto:] *
>   >   >     Sent:* 
  Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:17 PM*
>   >   >   
    To:* *
>   >   >   
    Cc:* Mary McRae; *
>   
  >   >     Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
> 
    >   >
>   >   >
>   > 
    >     ***********************
>   >   
  >     Warning: Your file, CD05.zip, contains more than 
> 
  32 files after
>   >   >     decompression and 
  cannot be scanned.
>   >   >     
  ***********************
>   >   >
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   > 
      ok - let's give this one a try.
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   >   >   
    thanks
>   >   >     -Doug
> 
    >   >     
  ______________________________________________________
>   > 
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   IBM Software Group
>   >   >     (919) 
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> 
    >   >
>   >   >     *"Mary 
  McRae" <>*
>   >   > 
      Sent by: Mary McRae <>
>   
  >   >
>   >   >     02/11/2007 
  06:05 PM
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   >   >   
    Please respond to
>   >   >     
  <>
>   >   >
> 
    >   >
>   >   >
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   > 
      To
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   >   >   
    Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
>   >   >
> 
    >   >     cc
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   >   >
> 
    >   >     
  <>
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     Subject
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: 
  CD5.3
>   >   >
>   >   >
> 
    >   >
>   >   >
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   >   >
> 
    >   >
>   >   >
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   > 
      Almost - new Copyright line says:
>   >   
  >     Copyright (c) OASIS(r) 1993-2007. All Rights 
> 
  Reserved. OASIS
>   > trademark,
>   >   > 
      IPR and other policies apply.
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     And then you'll need to 
  make sure that it's the 
> same in both the
>   >   
  >     spec and the schema/wsdl themselves.
>   > 
    >
>   >   >     m
>   
  >   >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   > 
> 
  --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
  ----------
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     *
>   > 
    >     From:* Doug Davis [mailto:] *
> 
    >   >     Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:03 
  PM*
>   >   >     To:* 
  *
>   >   >     Cc:* 
  *
>   >   >   
    Subject:* [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3*
>   >   > 
      Importance:* High
>   >   >
>   
  >   >
>   >   >     Mary,
> 
    >   >     am I correct in assuming that if I 
  replace:
>   >   >     <!-->   
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> validity or 
> 
  scope
>   > of any
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> pertain to the
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>   >   > 
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> or the 
  extent to
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  licen
>   >   >     se under such rights might 
  or might not be 
> available; neither
> does
>   > 
    >     it represent
>   >   >   
    that it has made any effort to identify any such rights.
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  Information
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> 
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>   >   >     That'd 
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>   >   > 
      thanks
>   >   >     
  -Doug
>   >   >     
  ______________________________________________________
>   > 
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   IBM Software Group
>   >   >     (919) 
  254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  
> 
    >   >
>   >   >     *"Mary 
  McRae" <>*
>   >   > 
      Sent by: Mary McRae <>
>   
  >   >
>   >   >     02/11/2007 
  04:47 PM
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   >   >   
    Please respond to
>   >   >     
  <>
>   >   >
> 
    >   >
>   >   >
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   >   >   
    To
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   >   >   
    Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS,
> 
  <>
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     cc
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     Subject
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     RE: CD5.3
>   
  >   >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   >   >
> 
    >   >
>   >   >
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   >   >
> 
    >   >
>   >   >
>   > 
    >     Hi Doug,
>   >   >
> 
    >   >     I haven't unzipped yet, but the schema / 
  wsdl 
> *do* need the
> Notices
>   >   > 
      section that's inserted as a comment at the 
> beginning 
  of the
> files
>   >   >     changed 
  from the legacy IPR policy language to 
> the 4-15-2005
> 
  policy
>   >   >     language ... I'm willing 
  to go the extra mile to 
> get this out
> by end
>   
  >   >     of day Monday since you're working hard to get 
  everything
>   > accomplished.
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     Mary
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   > 
> 
  --------------------------------------------------------------
> 
  ----------
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >     *
>   > 
    >     From:* Doug Davis [mailto:] *
> 
    >   >     Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:26 
  AM*
>   >   >     To:* 
  *
>   >   >   
    Cc:* *
>   >   >   
    Subject:* CD5.3*
>   >   >     
  Importance:* High
>   >   >
>   >   
  >     ***********************
>   >   > 
      Warning: Your file, CD05.zip, contains more than 
> 32 
  files after
>   >   >     decompression and 
  cannot be scanned.
>   >   >     
  ***********************
>   >   >
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   
  >
>   >   >
>   >   >   
    Editors:
>   >   >     Here's CD5.3 
  with the changes Mary wanted.  I did 
> not update the
> 
    >   >     schema/wsdl as that was just a 
  suggestion and I wanted to
> keep the
>   >   > 
      diffs as small as possible.
>   >   > 
      Take a look and see if all looks well.
>   > 
    >
>   >   >
>   >   > 
      thanks
>   >   >     
  -Doug
>   >   >     
  ______________________________________________________
>   > 
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>   >   >     (919) 
  254-6905  |  IBM T/L 444-6905  |  
> 
    >   >
>   >
>   > --
> 
    > Paul Fremantle
>   > VP/Technology and Partnerships, 
  WSO2
>   > OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
>   >
> 
    > http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
>   > 
  
>   > (646) 290 8050
>   >
> 
    > "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
> 
    >
>   >
>   >
>   > 
  --
>   > Paul Fremantle
>   > VP/Technology and 
  Partnerships, WSO2
>   > OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
>   
  >
>   > http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
> 
    > 
>   > (646) 290 8050
>   
  >
>   > "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", 
  www.wso2.com
>   >
>   >
> 
> 
> 
  -- 
> Paul Fremantle
> VP/Technology and Partnerships, 
  WSO2
> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
> 
> 
  http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
> 
> (646) 
  290 8050
> 
> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", 
  www.wso2.com
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Paul 
  Fremantle
> VP/Technology and Partnerships, WSO2
> OASIS WS-RX TC 
  Co-chair
> 
> http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
> 
  
> (646) 290 8050
> 
> "Oxygenating the Web 
  Service Platform", www.wso2.com
> 

-- 
Paul 
  Fremantle
VP/Technology and Partnerships, WSO2
OASIS WS-RX TC 
  Co-chair

http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle

(646) 
  290 8050

"Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", 
  www.wso2.com
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