RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3

From
Mary McRae <>
Date
2007-02-12T14:36:14+00:00
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Thread
RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
not quite - as that would "hide" everything in those 
directories. But if you added a filename to each of the URIs below it would work 
(would want Robin to double-check)

 

        http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/wsrm.html
        http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp/wsrmp.html
  
      http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsmc/wsmc.html

 

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  From: Doug Davis [mailto:] 
  
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 7:19 AM
To: Marc 
  Goodner
Cc: 'Mary McRae'; ; Paul Fremantle; 
  'Robin Cover'; 
Subject: RE: 
  [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3

  

I would have thought that we'd 
  want a URL that was date-less as well as version-less.  Something 
  like: 
        
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm 
        
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp 
        
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsmc 

That way even if we have a v.Next the URL would still not need to 
  change.  Mary - is this possible? 

thanks
-Doug
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      Marc Goodner 
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02/11/2007 10:40 PM 

      
        
          
          

            
              
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            RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: 
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My reading is that Dug has made all of the requested changes except one 
  we are still discussing. The open issue is what to use for the latest link in 
  the doc.

My recommendation is to just use the current namespace. Mary 
  has suggested a permanent latest URI could be assigned for this use. I'm not 
  inherently opposed to that but I'd prefer some more discussion before putting 
  it into practice.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Fremantle 
  [mailto:]
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:30 PM
To: 
  
Cc: Marc Goodner; 'Doug Davis'; 'Mary McRae'; 
  ; 'Robin Cover'
Subject: Re: 
  [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3

I'd like to thank Marc, Doug and Mary for all 
  your efforts this weekend.

Can anyone give me a brief status update? 
  I've seen a ton of useful
messages but I haven't quite figured out what is 
  still needed before the PR.

Thanks
Paul

Mary McRae 
  wrote:
> We can also invent another URI to be used - like
> 
  docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/v1.1/wsrm-v1.1.doc etc. - that way even
> 
  if the date changes we're still talking about the latest version of 
  the
> 1.1 spec ...
>
> m
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>     
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> 
      *From:* Marc Goodner [mailto:]
> 
      *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 9:18 PM
>     
  *To:* Doug Davis; 
>     *Cc:* 'Mary 
  McRae'; 
>     *Subject:* 
  RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>
>     So on 2, yeah we 
  don't have anything like that. I think the best we
>     can 
  do is a link to the namespace as that could eventually contain
>   
    the previous/latest links there. The only other immediate
> 
      alternative I can think of would be the Public TC 
  page.
>
>
>
>     My vote for now would be 
  to use the namespace. The reason is that if
>     we progress 
  with the same namespace from this PR, and I'm pretty
>     
  hopeful we will, then the CS will be in that location with a link to
> 
      the previous CD for the same namespace. That seems to best 
  satisfy
>     the intent.
>
>
>
> 
      *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:]
>     
  *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:38 PM
>     *To:* 
  
>     *Cc:* 'Mary McRae'; Marc 
  Goodner; 
>     *Subject:* 
  RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>
>
>
>
>   
    1. I'll remove the [insert...] since, as Marc said, I don't think 
  we
>     have any.
>     2. The guideline 
  says:
>     A bookmarkable, version-agnostic, generic URI 
  serving as a URI alias
>     which is always associated with 
  the latest/current specification
>     instance, thus having a 
  changing referent; it serves to identify and
>     directly 
  locate each successive published instance of a developing
>   
    specification, through time [Label: Latest Version]
>   
    Do we have a URL like that?  As far as I know all of our URLs 
  have
>     dates in them.  Can Oasis assign us a 
  non-dated set of URLs?
>     3. Done - as much as I could 
  anyway :-)
>
>     Latest zip is here:
>   
    
  http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/download.php/22331/CD05.zip
>
> 
      (you guys are probably sick of me sending huge zip 
  files)
>     Will replace the individual files in the CD5 
  folder once people 'ok'
>     it but I think I still need 
  those static URLs mentioned in #2.
>
>     
  thanks
>     -Doug
>     
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>     *"Mary McRae" 
  <>*
>     Sent by: Mary McRae 
  <>
>
>     02/11/2007 07:54 
  PM
>
>     Please respond to
>     
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>
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>   
    To
>
>
>
>     Doug 
  Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "'Marc Goodner'" 
  <>
>
>     
  cc
>
>
>
>     "'Mary McRae'" 
  <>,
>     
  <>
>
>     
  Subject
>
>
>
>     RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: 
  CD5.3
>
>
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> 
      Before you do that ;-)
>
>     1. in all 
  three spec files -- pay attention to the last para of the
>   
    Notices section. It refers to OASIS' new Trademark policy. In 
  the
>     first line you'll see "[insert specific trademarked 
  names,
>     abbreviations, etc. here]" - any terms that the 
  TC believes should
>     be trademarked should be listed there 
  and the boilerplate text removed.
>
>     2. also, for 
  "latest version" the intent is to use a URI that will
>     
  always bring up the most recent copy of the spec (see samples in
> 
      naming guidelines documents). Oops - just found another bad link 
  on
>     the templates page.
>     
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASISSpecificationTemplateGuidelines.html
> 
      section 3.4.3 or here:
>     
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/metadata.html#specURIs
>
>
> 
      3. I apparently also messed up when I created the new templates 
  for
>     OO (and possibly Word). There were supposed to be 
  two more
>     categories on the cover page between Editors 
  and Abstract:
>     Related Work
>     
  and
>     Declared XML Namespaces
>     (can 
  be seen here:
>     
  http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASISSpecificationTemplateV3.0.html)
>
>
> 
      No penalties for not including #3, but bonus points awarded if 
  you
>     do ;-)
>
>     I'm going to go 
  watch the Grammys ... I think you guys have it under
>     
  control and we'll be all set for announcement tomorrow.
>
>   
    m
>
>     
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> 
      *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:] *
>   
    Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:29 PM*
>     To:* 
  Marc Goodner*
>     Cc:* Mary McRae; 
  ;
>     
  *
>     Subject:* RE: 
  [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>
>
>     Actually, I 
  was hoping you might be able to generate new HTML by
>     
  importing it into Word  :-)
>
>     thanks
> 
      -Doug
>     
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>     *Marc Goodner 
  <>*
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>     02/11/2007 07:22 
  PM
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>
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>     
  To
>
>
>
>     Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, 
  ""
>     
  <>
>
>     
  cc
>
>
>
>     Mary McRae 
  <>,
>     
  ""
>     
  <>
>
>     
  Subject
>
>
>
>     RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: 
  CD5.3
>
>
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> 
      Thanks for the quick turnaround on the doc Dug.  Mary, 
  thanks a ton
>     for staying engaged with us over the 
  weekend.
>
>     A quick scan and this looks good to me. 
  It looks like the correct
>     Notices now, but I defer to 
  Mary on that.
>
>     This one doesn't have the HTML in 
  it. We're we just going to update
>     the previous generated 
  HTML by hand?
>      *
>     From:* Doug 
  Davis [mailto:] *
>     Sent:* Sunday, February 
  11, 2007 3:17 PM*
>     To:* 
  *
>     Cc:* Mary McRae; 
  *
>     Subject:* RE: 
  [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
>
>
>     
  ***********************
>     Warning: Your file, CD05.zip, 
  contains more than 32 files after
>     decompression and 
  cannot be scanned.
>     
  ***********************
>
>
>
>     ok - 
  let's give this one a try.
>
>
>     
  thanks
>     -Doug
>     
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>
>     *"Mary McRae" 
  <>*
>     Sent by: Mary McRae 
  <>
>
>     02/11/2007 06:05 
  PM
>
>
>
>     Please respond to
> 
      
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>
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>
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      To
>
>
>
>     Doug 
  Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
>
>     
  cc
>
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>
>     
  <>
>
>     
  Subject
>
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>
>     RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: 
  CD5.3
>
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      Almost - new Copyright line says:
>     
  Copyright (c) OASIS(r) 1993-2007. All Rights Reserved. OASIS 
  trademark,
>     IPR and other policies apply.
>
> 
      And then you'll need to make sure that it's the same in both 
  the
>     spec and the schema/wsdl themselves.
>
> 
      m
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>     
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>
> 
      *
>     From:* Doug Davis 
  [mailto:] *
>     Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 
  2007 5:03 PM*
>     To:* *
> 
      Cc:* *
>     
  Subject:* [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3*
>     Importance:* 
  High
>
>
>     Mary,
>     am I 
  correct in assuming that if I replace:
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>     procedures with respect to rights in OASIS 
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    SIS website. Copies of claims of rights made available for
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  That'd we'd be ok?
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>     thanks
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  -Doug
>     
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>
>     *"Mary McRae" 
  <>*
>     Sent by: Mary McRae 
  <>
>
>     02/11/2007 04:47 
  PM
>
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>
>     Please respond to
> 
      
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      To
>
>
>
>     Doug 
  Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, 
  <>
>
>     
  cc
>
>
>
>     
  Subject
>
>
>
>     RE: 
  CD5.3
>
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>
>
>
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> 
      Hi Doug,
>
>     I haven't unzipped yet, 
  but the schema / wsdl *do* need the Notices
>     section 
  that's inserted as a comment at the beginning of the files
>   
    changed from the legacy IPR policy language to the 4-15-2005 
  policy
>     language ... I'm willing to go the extra mile to 
  get this out by end
>     of day Monday since you're working 
  hard to get everything accomplished.
>
>     
  Mary
>
>
>
>     
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>
>
> 
      *
>     From:* Doug Davis 
  [mailto:] *
>     Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 
  2007 10:26 AM*
>     To:* 
  *
>     Cc:* 
  *
>     Subject:* CD5.3*
> 
      Importance:* High
>
>     
  ***********************
>     Warning: Your file, CD05.zip, 
  contains more than 32 files after
>     decompression and 
  cannot be scanned.
>     
  ***********************
>
>
>
>
>
>   
    Editors:
>     Here's CD5.3 with the changes Mary 
  wanted.  I did not update the
>     schema/wsdl as that 
  was just a suggestion and I wanted to keep the
>     diffs as 
  small as possible.
>     Take a look and see if all looks 
  well.
>
>
>     thanks
>     
  -Doug
>     
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