Mary,
If you download this zip file:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/download.php/26268/WSRX%20OS01e1.zip
it should contain the erratas (doc,
pdf and html versions) and the new wsdl files for the public review. Let
me know if I missed something.
thanks
-Doug
______________________________________________________
STSM | Web Services Architect | IBM Software Group
(919) 254-6905 | IBM T/L 444-6905 |
"Mary McRae"
<>
Sent by:
11/28/2007 10:07 AM
Please respond to
To
"Paul Fremantle" <>
cc
Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, ,
"Sanjay Patil" <>,
Subject
Re: [Fwd: Re: [ws-rx-editors] RE: Public
Review of Errata]
Hi Paul,
It *could*, but that's not what the URIs on the cover page. Right
now all of the various versions are contained in the same dir.
m
On Nov 28, 2007 9:59 AM, Paul Fremantle < >
wrote:
Aha
I think we are getting there. I guess I was assuming that the errata
would all go in a new directory.
Paul
Mary McRae wrote:
> Hi Paul and Doug,
>
> I'm not arguing with you. I'm not asking you to change the
namespace
> itself, only to reflect the name of the new wsdl file (as we have
a new
> spec+errata and errata noted) in the namespace *document*. No document
> is ever silently replaced; you have changed the wsdl file and therefore
> it either needs a new name (if going in the same location) or a new
> location (such as placing in an explicitly-labeled subdir).
>
> If you had declared a "latest version" URI for the wsdl,
you would have
> a mechanism in place that would allow for updated files but a common
> point of entry. That mechanism isn't in place and since the current
URI
> holds a fixed version, it can't be changed.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2007 9:23 AM, Paul Fremantle <
> <mailto:>>
wrote:
>
> Mary
>
> I tend to agree with Dug here. We explicitly chose to
handle these
> features as errata because they make no functional change
to any system,
> they simply fix typos in the spec. However, if we change
namespaces
> then
> that does change the technical behaviour.
>
> I think a change to the WSDL to fix a bug should have
the same status as
> a change to normative text in the body of the spec to
fix a bug.
>
> Paul
>
> Doug Davis wrote:
> >
> > Does it change anything if you think of the
it as fixing a typo
> rather
> > than any kind of functional/semantic change?
> >
> > thanks
> > -Doug
> > ______________________________________________________
> > STSM | Web Services Architect
| IBM Software Group
> > (919) 254-6905 | IBM T/L 444-6905
|
> <mailto:>
> >
> >
> > *"Mary McRae"
<
> <mailto:>>*
> > Sent by: Mary McRae <
> <mailto:>>
> >
> > 11/27/2007 11:30 PM
> > Please respond to
> > <
<mailto:
>>
> >
> >
> >
> > To
> > Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
> > cc
> > "'Mary McRae'"
<
> <mailto:>>,
"'Paul Fremantle'"
> > <
<mailto:>>,
"'Sanjay Patil'"
> <
<mailto:>>,
> > <
> <mailto:>>,
<
> <mailto:
>>
> > Subject
> > RE: [Fwd: Re: [ws-rx-editors]
RE: Public Review of Errata]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Doug,
> >
> > I'm conferring with Robin as
to the best way to handle this.
> Clearly
> > these WSDL files are different from the previous
ones and therefore
> > silently updating them without any other
action would not honor
> OASIS
> > policies.
> >
> > The namespace documents should be
updated to reflect the new WSDL
> > files; as far as any existing application
goes they should either
> > change the reference, or since it isn't substantive,
not worry
> about it.
> > See the following resources (text below from
Robin):
> >
> > "Latest Version" URIs for Schemas,
WSDLs, RDDLs, and Other
> Specification
> > Components"
> > _http://docs.oasis-
> open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/metadata.html#latestVersionURIs-schemas_
> <http://open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/metadata.html#latestVersionURIs-schemas_
>
> >
> > with note:
> > _http://docs.oasis-
> open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/metadata.html#movingTargetExample_
> <http://open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/metadata.html#movingTargetExample_
>
> >
> >
> > One of the concerns (the first) was stated
as:
> > "Clear designation of a
"Latest Version" URI as such"
> >
> > Example, in the WS-Policy RDDL namespace
document, with respect
> to the
> > schema:
> >
> > _http://www.w3.org/ns/ws-policy_
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> >
> > ******* Latest XML Schema: *********
> >
> > The following URI always points to the latest
schema
> > (including errata) for the Web Services Policy
1.5
> > namespace. The resource at this location
may change
> > as new errata are incorporated.
> >
> > _http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/policy/ns/ws-policy_
> >
> > ******* This dated version of the XML Schema:
*******
> >
> > The following URI points to the schema for
the Web
> > Services Policy 1.5 namespace corresponding
to the
> > 2007-09-04 specifications.
> >
> > _http://www.w3.org/2007/02/ws-policy.xsd_
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:
<mailto: >]
*
> > Sent:* Tuesday, November
27, 2007 9:12 AM*
> > To:* *
> > Cc:* Mary McRae;
> <mailto:>;
'Paul Fremantle'; 'Sanjay
> > Patil'; *
> > Subject:* RE: [Fwd: Re: [ws-rx-editors] RE:
Public Review of Errata]
> >
> >
> > Mary,
> > I've uploaded a zip file (
> >
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/download.php/26228/WSRX%20OS01e1.zip
> > ) with the erratas (word, pdf and html versions).
I've also
> placed the
> > updated wsdl files in there. Schemas
were not changed. I've
> held off
> > including the OS versions for now - just
to save time.
> >
> > As for updating the wsdl file names - wouldn't
this cause a
> problem if
> > people have URLs to the existing ones and
we want those
> references to
> > use the new data?
> >
> > thanks
> > -Doug
> > ______________________________________________________
> > STSM | Web Services Architect
| IBM Software Group
> > (919) 254-6905 | IBM T/L 444-6905
|
> <mailto:>
> >
> > *"Mary McRae"
<
> <mailto:
>>*
> > Sent by: Mary McRae <
> <mailto:
>>
> >
> > 11/26/2007 09:59 PM
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > <
<mailto:>>
> >
> >
> >
> > To
> > <
> <mailto:>>,
"'Paul Fremantle'"
> <
<mailto:>>,
> > <
> <mailto:>>,
"'Sanjay Patil'"
> > <
<mailto:>>
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > RE: [Fwd: Re: [ws-rx-editors]
RE: Public Review of Errata]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A couple of other things:
> >
> > Wsdl files - are there changes to these files
or are they the same as
> > originally
> > approved as OS?
> > (if they are the same, I don't need them;
if they are different, they
> > will need
> > a new file name and updated namespace documents,
etc.)
> >
> > Schema files - same as above
> >
> > OS versions - These need to be identified
as incorporating errata
> on the
> > cover,
> > have new URIs, etc. In reality there is no
need to include these
> in the
> > PR; this
> > can be tackled once the errata have been
approved post-PR. (they
> will
> > get new
> > status, dates, URIs, etc.) If you *want*
to include them in the
> PR, then the
> > filenames should somehow indicate that they
are cd status (since
> the TC
> > doesn't
> > use subdirs for this purpose) to avoid a
naming conflict once
> approved.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Mary
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mary McRae [mailto:
> <mailto:>]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007
9:47 PM
> > > To: 'Paul Fremantle'; '
> <mailto:
>'; 'Sanjay
> > Patil'
> > > Subject: RE: [Fwd: Re: [ws-rx-editors]
RE: Public Review of
> Errata]
> > >
> > > Hi Paul,
> > >
> > > Everything looks okay except
there are no HTML versions --
> can you
> > create
> > > those? (instructions here:
> > >
> http://oasistcadmin.wordpress.com/2007/06/27/creating-valid-xhtml-v10-
> > > transitional-from-ms-word/)
> > >
> > > Let me know if you need me to
do this.
> > >
> > > Mary
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:
> <mailto:>]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 25,
2007 11:49 AM
> > > > To: Mary McRae;
> <mailto:
>; Sanjay
Patil
> > > > Subject: [Fwd: Re: [ws-rx-editors]
RE: Public Review of Errata]
> > > >
> > > > Mary
> > > >
> > > > Any progress?
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > > -------- Original Message
--------
> > > > Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors]
RE: Public Review of Errata
> > > > Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:13:00
+0000
> > > > From: Paul
Fremantle <
<mailto:
>>
> > > > To:
<mailto:>
> > > > References: <">
> <mailto:">
>>
> > > > < ">
> <mailto:">
>>
> > > >
> > > > Its referenced from the vote:
> > > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-
> <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws->
> > > > rx/download.php/25955/www.oasis-
open.orgappsorgworkgroupws-
> > > > rxdownload.php25906WSRX%2520OS01e1.zip
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > > Mary McRae wrote:
> > > > > Excellent! Thanks, Paul.
Can you send me the doc?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mary
> > > > >
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: Paul Fremantle
[mailto:
> <mailto:>]
> > > > >> Sent: Friday, November
16, 2007 12:54 PM
> > > > >> To:
> <mailto:
>; Mary McRae; -
> > > > open.org
<http://open.org>
> > > > >> Subject: Public
Review of Errata
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The WS-RX TC recently
voted to approve errata on the 1.1
> spec.
> > > > >>
> >
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/ballot.php?id=1384
> <
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx/ballot.php?id=1384>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The next step is
to start a 15-day public review, for
> which we are
> > > > >> asking your help.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Paul
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Paul Fremantle
> > > > >> Co-Founder and VP
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