In addition, it would put the burden on the BPEL engine to implement
3-state XPath logic, instead of delegating to an XPath engine.
Similarly for any extension expression language.
Danny
Yaron Y. Goland wrote:
> This issue is, in my opinion, a feature request.
>
> The BPEL specification was explicitly defined to put in place a
> control dependency between the source and target of a link. In fact,
> exactly that language is used in section 6.1.
>
> In other words, one of the primary purposes of a link is ordering and
> that ordering applies regardless of the outcome of the join condition.
>
> This issue would have us change that behavior, not because it is
> faulty but because it is inefficient. But that inefficiency was a
> known side effect of the design and was accepted by the designers in
> return for allowing explicitly ordering control.
>
> Therefore there is no bug here per say. Rather there is a desire to
> change a feature to work in a different way. That is a feature request
> and therefore I believe this issue should go through the
> super-majority voting process before being accepted.
>
> Yaron
>
>
> Tony Fletcher wrote:
>
>> This issue has been added to the wsbpel issue list with a status of
>> "received". The status will be changed to "open" if the TC accepts it
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>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>>
>> Issue 189: Eliminate JoinConditions always evaluating only after
>> all source
>> activities are complete
>>
>> *Status:* received
>> *Date added:* 29 Jan 2005
>> *Categories:* State management
>> <file:///C:/Perlscripts/wsbpel_issues30.html#category_state_management>
>> *Date submitted:* 27 January 2005
>> *Submitter:* Prasad Yendluri <mailto:>
>> *Document:* WS-BPEL Working Draft, December, 2004
>> *Description:* The BPEL specification currently requires that a
>> joinCondition on a target activity be evaluated only after all
>> sources activities for the links coming into it are complete, whether
>> or not the the joinCondition calls for it. In situations such as an
>> activity needs only one of its source activities to be complete (as
>> in the case of an implicit-join), it is unnecessary with serious
>> performance implications to require that all source activities must
>> be complete prior to evaluating the join condition.
>>
>> *Submitter's proposal:* The specification must eliminate this
>> built-in inefficiency and facilitate evaluation of joinCondition each
>> time an incoming link has a status change, *as an option* on the
>> joinCondition or as a process/scope level enabler.
>>
>> *Links:* (Note considerable discussion before formal raising of an
>> issue) Prasad Yendluri, 27 Jan 2005
>> <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel/200501/msg00080.html>
>> Danny van der Rijn, 27 Jan 2005
>> <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel/200501/msg00081.html>
>> Prasad Yendluri, 27 Jan 2005
>> <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel/200501/msg00082.html>
>> Dieter Koenig1, 27 Jan 2005
>> <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel/200501/msg00084.html>
>> Prasad Yendluri, 27 Jan 2005
>> <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel/200501/msg00087.html>
>> Danny van der Rijn, 27 Jan 2005
>> <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel/200501/msg00088.html>
>> Prasad Yendluri, 27 Jan 2005
>> <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel/200501/msg00089.html>
>> Tony Fletcher, 27 Jan 2004
>> <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel/200501/msg00090.html>
>> Danny van der Rijn, 27 Jan 2005
>> <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel/200501/msg00091.html>
>> Prasad Yendluri, 27 Jan 2005
>> <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel/200501/msg00092.html>
>> Announcement, 29 Jan 2005
>> <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel/200501/msg00109.html>
>> *Changes:* 29 Jan 2005 - new issue
>>
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