Re: [wsrm] Issues with RM with WSDL 1.1 R-R operation

From
Sunil Kunisetty <>
Date
2004-02-25T05:43:19+00:00
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Re: [wsrm] Issues with RM with WSDL 1.1 R-R operation
Sunil Kunisetty wrote:
 

Jacques Durand wrote:
 

There was also a 4 pages study we did back in October
on the implications

of supporting R-R.
 Isn't that document related to Ack on 'Response' scenarios?
As far as I recollect

 it is not related to the 'Request' case as we are
dealing correctly.
 Oops. I meant 'as we are dealing currently'.
 
 

I wouldn't rule out RM for the first leg of R-R,

unless we face real issues or that requires more work,
 Don't you think the issues (1) & (2) mentioned
below are for real?

 -Sunil
 

which I am not sure it is the case.

Can we hold on this one? I'd like our developers to look
into this

within the next couple of days, as the main issues we
seem to have

are on the deployment side within existing WS stacks.

Jacques

-----Original Message-----

From: Sunil Kunisetty [mailto:]

Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:38 PM

To: 

Subject: [wsrm] Issues with RM with WSDL 1.1 R-R operation

 

 Just for the heck of it, I wanted to consolidate
the problems with using RM

 with WSDL 1.1 R-R operation:

 1) Issues with batching/piggybacking Acks or Faults
as mentioned in this thread and many other threads:

        http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200402/msg00194.html

 2) Issues with DE in R-R case as Tom mentioned in
this mail:

        http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200402/msg00212.html

3) Message ordering is not that useful and efficient in
the R-R case

      as the clients may be
blocked for the 'buffered' messages.

 4) GD in general is not a big requirement as a Response
can be

     construed as an Ack.

 5) If not for Response pattern, the use of RM fault
mechanism to

     report RM errors is a clear
winner. The only case SOAP Fault

     mechanism can be used to report
RM errors is the Response

     pattern case.

 So do we really need to support RM features for
WSDL 1.1 R-R operation?

 Again, I'm not suggesting to remove it haphazardly,
but lets think about it

 for one final time before it becomes too late.

 -Sunil

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