Re: [wsrp-conformance] RE: [wsrp-interop] follow-up: templates

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Rich Thompson <>
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2003-11-07T18:17:31+00:00
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Re: [wsrp-conformance] RE: [wsrp-interop] follow-up: templates
I think there are a couple of issues
here. First, I think it is worthwhile having a value with a semantic meaning
that no change in mode or windowState is being requested as this eliminates
processing cycles for the Consumer. What that value should be is an interesting
question.

The argument in favor of ""
is that no mode or windowState will ever carry this name and therefore
it is a 'safe' value. 

The argument in favor of {wsrp-mode}
(or ...) is that it makes the querystring (presuming that is where it is
in the URL) more readable.

I think Producers will need a bit of
logic that supplies the values for whatever the Portlet does not set. If
a Producer chooses to simply leave tokens like {wsrp-interactionState}
in the URL, then the Consumer is required to supply that as the interactionState
during the performBlockingInteraction invocation (and likewise for navigationalState).
The simplest bit of logic for the Producer would be to initialize a set
of variables to "" and then provide an interface which allows
the portlet to set any of them it wants. When the URL's string value is
being placed into the markup, the Producer can simply walk the template
and blindly replace the portlet URL parameters with their values. While
this may make odd looking querystrings, I would note they would be valid
(and commonly occur today).

Rich

Andre Kramer <>

11/07/2003 12:14 PM

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[wsrp-conformance] RE: [wsrp-interop]
follow-up: templates

Yes, I favour 3 as it works for unexpected as well as
expected {} token. Query strings such as ?a=x&b=&c=z look strange
so "" does not seem a natural choice.

Also, custom modes & window states are constrained
by the values negotiated and nav and interaction state are opaque to the
consumer.

regards, 

Andre 

-----Original Message----- 

From: Richard Jacob [mailto:]

Sent: 07 November 2003 16:25 

To:  

Cc:  

Subject: [wsrp-interop] follow-up: templates 

I wanted to add a question on the topic discussed yesterday
on both calls 

about token replacement found in templates (sorry for crossposting):

Does the producer/portlet need to replace all tokens in a template when

generating URLs? 

I think we said yes but might replace them with empty strings.

What in the case of {wsrp-mode} or {wsrp-windowState}? For example a render

template like: http://bla.com/here?mode={wsrp-mode}&ws

={wsrp-windowState}.... 

I see the follwing options here: 

1. producer replaces with the mode it wants to "change" to (might
be the 

current mode), could be one of the valid wsrp-modes or a custom-mode

2. producer replaces with "" (blank), like suggested in yesterdays
call. 

In this case we have an interpretation-issue on the consumer side when

processing these URLs. 

Does a "" mode name mean a mode name containing of an empty string?
In this 

case the conumer might not know this mode (abviously) and map it to view.

Or does a "" mode mean, no change requested, stay in current
mode? The 

second one seems to be what the portlet wants in that case.

3. producer does not replace at all 

Here the consumer needs to check while processing the URL that the mode

{wsrp-mode} was a template-non-change and interpret this as "stay
in 

current mode". 

2 & 3 imply that "" and "{wsrp-mode}"
are reserved mode strings and are not 

allow to use for mode names (don't think one would ever want to name modes

that way :-) ) 

I think 1 is the cleanest one, others seem to impose various
interpretation 

possibilities. 

It seems that the Citrix Producer chooses 3. for all replacement
tokens in 

templates in such cases? 

Mit freundlichen Gruessen / best regards,

        Richard Jacob

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