Introducing an implicit transport level token that is not reflected in
our application protocol (SOAP- headers or interface WSDL) seems bad on design
principles alone, to me, as producers are not always going to be one (http or
other transport) hop away from producers. Therefore the pattern should
be:
initEnvironment(environmentID) - if environment needs to be explicitly
established
operation(environmentID) - if operation is in the context of the named
environment then the context should be explicit.
I
don't mind limiting the use cases for initEnvironment (as long as it remains
optional) but I do wonder why we are both trying to simply the semantics and
adding an extra costly network round trip to the end user interaction (maybe
initEnviornment and its result should carry a timestamp so that user dead time
can be easily measured as well as a context/environment/grouping identifier? ;-)
How
about instead limiting a new connection to only one outstanding getMarkup or
performInteraction at first use so that a context can be established both at the
transport and wsrp level? This avoids the extra initEnvironment round trip but I
would still vote for some form of context/environment/group identifier to make
explict the shared context.
regards,
Andre
-----Original Message-----
From: Gil Tayar
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Sent: 26 September 2002
18:40
To: 'Tamari, Yossi'
Cc:
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Subject: RE: [wsrp-wsia]
[I#6]Update: Is groupId required?
Yup. Sorry. I'll update the list (remove the "we are postponing..."
part). Note however that a "tentative proposal" email was also
sent.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tamari, Yossi
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Sent: Thu, September 26, 2002
20:32
To: 'Gil Tayar'
Subject: RE: [wsrp-wsia]
[I#6]Update: Is groupId required?
Hi
Gil,
I
think you got a little confused. Regarding this we said we will vote next
week to remove groupId from the spec.
It
was regarding the isRefresh that we said we will defer until after the JSR
meeting.
Yossi.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gil Tayar
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Sent: Thursday, September 26,
2002 8:29 PM
To:
Subject: [wsrp-wsia] [I#6]Update:
Is groupId required?
Owner: Michael Freedman
Title: Is groupId required?
Description:
Since
we now have initEnvironment, which is the solution for shared sessions, do
we now need groupId, which was also defined as a mechanism for group
sessions.
We are postponing this until we hear some more information
from the JSR-168 liason people.
