FW: [wsrp][markup] First conference call (Summary)

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FW: [wsrp][markup] First conference call (Summary)
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agreed, but this can be automated for the most part. 
For example, the service could include a legacy web application and convert the 
markup to xhtml with an html parser.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eilon Reshef 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 
11:58 AM
To: 'PAVLIK,GREGORY (HP-NewJersey,ex2)'; 'Thomas Schaeck'; 
'Takao Mohri'
Cc: 'WSRP Mailing List (E-mail)'
Subject: RE: 
[wsrp][markup] First conference call (Summary)

I do believe we have to offer a migration path for 
people that have or even prefer plain old HTML - expecting everybody to go back 
to their Perl scripts and JSP templates and rework them might provide a barrier 
to entry that we can avoid by simply supporting HTML.

  

  
-----Original Message-----
From: PAVLIK,GREGORY 
  (HP-NewJersey,ex2) [mailto:] 
Sent: Wednesday, 
  April 10, 2002 11:48 AM
To: 'Thomas Schaeck'; Takao 
  Mohri
Cc: PAVLIK,GREGORY (HP-NewJersey,ex2); WSRP Mailing List 
  (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [wsrp][markup] First conference call 
  (Summary)

  
Is there a general statement on whether the markup 
  subcommittee intends to 
treat HTML and XHTML 
  interchangeably? My initial thought was that WSRP would 
do better to standardize on XHTML, which would have a number of 
  advantages 
including the ability of the consumer to 
  treat the fragment as an XML 
fragment. It's not 
  terribly difficult to tidy up a piece of HTML and 
repurpose it as well-formed/valid XHTML when dealing with legacy 
  content. An 
early focus on XHTML might position us 
  better for dealing with devices in 
the long run, as it 
  appears that WML and cHTML are going to be secondary 
targets for the TC. 

  
Greg 

  
-----Original Message----- 
From: 
  Thomas Schaeck [mailto:] 
  
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:43 PM 
To: Takao Mohri 
Cc: PAVLIK,GREGORY 
  (HP-NewJersey,ex2); WSRP Mailing List (E-mail) 
Subject: Re: [wsrp][markup] First conference call (Summary) 
  

  
There is not something like "the markup language of WSRP", the 
  WSRP 
protocol needs not to be tied to any particular 
  markup language, the 
protocol and the markup exchanged 
  can be viewed as orthogonal. 

  
However, WSRP will need to define rules for valid markup 
  fragments and 
common styles with the priorities 
  
1. (X)HTML 
2. WML, cHTML, 
  VoiceXML... 

  
It would be interesting to see the rules that would define 
  valid XHTML 
Basic fragments. 

  
Takao, could you post an XHTML Basic example document to the 
  mailing list 
and an outline of fragment rules for 
  XHTML Basic ? Which tags would be 
allowed in 
  aggregatable XHTML Basic fragments and which tags would not be 
  
allowed to use in fragments ? 

  
Best regards, 

  
Thomas 

  
Takao Mohri <> on 04/09/2002 
  01:26:58 PM 

  
Please respond to Takao Mohri 
  <> 

  
To:    "PAVLIK,GREGORY (HP-NewJersey,ex2)" 
  <> 
cc:    
  "WSRP Mailing List (E-mail)" <> 
  
Subject:    Re: [wsrp][markup] First 
  conference call (Summary) 

  
Greg, 

  
Yes, as you mentioned, XHTML Basic is becoming a standard for 
  cellular 
phones. 
In WAP 2.0, 
  XHTML Mobile Profile (an extention of XHTML Basic) is a 
standard markup language. In Japan, cellular phones that support WAP 
  2.0 
are already on sale by KDDI. NTT Docomo also has 
  announced support of WAP 
2.0. 
In the near future, WAP 2.0, i.e, XTHML Basic will be used by many 
  mobile 
devices. 

  
If the markup language of WSRP is based on XHTML Basic, 
  
it makes support of mobile devices much easier. 

  
Regards, 
Takao 

  
"PAVLIK,GREGORY (HP-NewJersey,ex2)" wrote: 
> 
> Gino, 
> 
> Could you clarify if your intent is 
  to consider XHMTL/XHTML Basic as a 
part 
  
> of the HTML focus? This wasn't clear from the notes. 
  There appears to be 
a 
> 
  broad convergence in the mobile space, both with respect to WML and NTT 
  
> Docomo, to standardizing on XHTML Basic + CSS. XHTML is 
  going to be here 
on 
> the 
  device very soon, perhaps quicker than on the desktop, making this a 
  
> relatively high priority item. Fujitsu may have some 
  comments on this as 
> well. 
> 
> Greg 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
  
> From: Gino Filicetti [mailto:] 
  
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 3:22 PM 
> To: WSRP Mailing List (E-mail) 
> 
  Subject: [wsrp][markup] First conference call (Summary) 
> 
> Team, 
> 
> Attached are the meeting notes from 
  today's Markup Subcommittee meeting. 
> Comments and 
  suggestions are welcome. 
> 
> One thing I did notice was that there were quite a few 
  participants today 
> that aren't on the actual list 
  of official members for this team. Since 
this 
  
> team is quite small, I think it'd be great if we could 
  get some of you to 
> officially join and help out 
  with the effort. Unfortunately, I wasn't 
able 
  
> to capture the names of ALL the attendees this time 
  around (I'll be sure 
to 
> 
  record the con-call next time), but please send me an email so we can 
  add 
> your name to official list and flesh out the 
  team a little more. 
> 
> 
  Currently, the official list is: 
> 
> Gino Filicetti 
> David Taieb 
  
> Khurram Mahmood 
> Susan 
  Levine 
> Michael Hillerman 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
  . . . . . 
> Gino Filicetti | Software 
  Engineer 
> One Harbour Place, Portsmouth, NH 
  03801 
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