RE: [wsia] [wsrp] [wsrp-wsia joint interfaces] Merged interfacesdocument

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Eilon Reshef <>
Date
2002-06-10T18:32:22+00:00
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008501c210ad$1b131fe0$1300a8c0@eilon
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RE: [wsia] [wsrp] [wsrp-wsia joint interfaces] Merged interfacesdocument
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Rich, 

 

Kudos on the last version of the spec, it reads great and much clearer 
and cleaner than previous versions.

 

I would like to add my own two questions based on an initial reading of 
the document.

 

The semantics of "session"

Does a session span all the different portlets/templates/instances 
provided by a single service? If so, that means that extra care is needed in the 
case where Producers don't want to share sessions. The most natural example that 
comes to mind is a simple SOAP gateway that relays requests to multiple 
even-more-remote Producers. In this case, the gateway has to implement the 
semantics of session aggregation or do some other manipulation of the message 
body.

 

Multiple parameters using arrays

I concur with a previous comment that it seems unnatural to duplicate 
every parameter of every call just for the sake of a single network 
communication. Beyond being unnatural, this also requires the Consumer do to 
work, and apropos an earlier discussion, would practically preclude using SOAP 
exceptions (if the Consumer gets an exception, this essentially means that one 
of of the many services may have failed, and this isn't the regular semantics of 
exceptions). 

Unless I am missing something, this networking issue can be solved by the 
layer that created it (the transport layer) using for example HTTP 1.1. Although 
existing SOAP frameworks probably don't have built-in support for this, since we 
are talking about a single generic proxy for all WSRP services, I see no reason 
why this should be particularly challenging to accomplish. This would also allow 
multiplexing of different calls (to operations with different signature) without 
requiring to open a new connection.

 

In general (regarding both of those comments), let's not forget that 
portal interoperability is an important objective of this committee - but 
it's just one. The other, which is as important, is to allow ISVs and end 
customers to create portlets that can work across portals. We have to ensure 
that the specification does not practically preclude this second objective by 
optimizing the interface for the first.

 

Eilon

  

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Thompson 
  [mailto:] 
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:38 
  PM
To: ; 
  
Subject: [wsia] [wsrp] [wsrp-wsia joint 
  interfaces] Merged interfaces document

  
Here is a draft of the merged interfaces document that Carsten 
  and I have 
been working on this week. The largest 
  conceptual change from the previous 
0.44 Joint Spec 
  Draft is the appearance of arrays in most of the 
operations. This allows Consumers on the scale of portals to 
  efficiently 
interact with Producer services. 
  

  
(See attached file: WSIA - WSRP Interface 
  Specification.doc)