RE: [xacml] FW: some little questions

From
Iarold Mockhart
Date
2009-07-16T15:38:26+00:00
ID
35bef694-3c46-4c3b-91d2-15918eb2a6c3@default
Thread
RE: [xacml] FW: some little questions
Perhaps I gave the wrong impression about protecting a 
policy repository.

 

During 
the discussons which led to XACML 3.0 it was pointed out that with XACML 2.0 (or 
any version really) you can protect operations such as CRUD on a repository. 
However this approach would not let you control the scope of capabilities of a 
person editing policies.

 

I 
suppose we could have consider using XPATH functions to introspect policy 
contents, but I think the result would have made it very hard to understand the 
intent of administrative policies.

 

For 
whatever reasons this approach was not seriously considered and instead we chose 
the scheme you see in the Admin Profile.

 

Influenced by the requirement to be allowed to provide 
policies along with the request, we formulated Reduction as a policy decision 
time process instead of an administration time process. Since the current scheme 
allows access policies and their enabling administrative polices to reference 
distinct attributes, there is no good way to determine if an access policy is in 
force, except in the context of a particular decision.

 

Hal

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Harold Lockhart 
  
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:20 AM
To: 
  
Subject: [xacml] FW: some little 
  questions

  
 

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Herrmann 
  [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:43 
  AM
To: Harold Lockhart
Subject: some little 
  questions

  

  
Hello 
  Hal,

  
I modified the slides from the 
  Boston meeting 
  a little bit to focus the things that might be of interest for your group. 
  

  
Now I am wondering how you usually 
  do presentations during your telecons. Are you using google docs or special 
  tools like team viewer?

  
Another question: In Boston you mentioned 
  that a couple of years ago the XACML TC discussed how to administrate XACML 
  policies. You mentioned that using XACML itself to do control access to a PAP 
  Web Service was rejected and instead the mechanism described in the new 
  delegation profile was preferred. Are their any internal documents talking 
  about the reasoning behind this decision?

  
Talk to you 
  later.

  
greets

  
jan

  
 

  
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