Re: [xdi] TCPad (was RE: [xdi] Agenda: XDI TC Telecon Thursday 1-2PM PT 2010-06-17)

Thanks Bill,

  I know you're well-intentioned but have limited time to work on any such projects. And right now our internal IT staff has one major project underway.

  While TCs may use outside tools to conduct meetings, they are not official resources. No information may be maintained on outside tools (including your suggestion of agenda items). 

Regards,

Mary 

On Jun 23, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Barnhill, William [USA] wrote:

Hi Mary,

 

I'd be happy to offer my own personal time to work with 
OASIS staff in setting it up and integrating it into Kavi. Another idea I had 
was that if the the way Idearpad stores the data is in a Wiki markup 
language (seems likely) then we could create a customized version for which the 
'save' feature actually commits to the OASIS Subversion repository. That would 
mean the generate IC was stored and accessible authoritatively in an OASIS 
approved medium - the Idearpad becomes simply a user interface to the Subversion 
content, a domain-specific version of something like Tortoise-SVN. I should 
mention that the sw name is Etherpad, and the online commercial entity is 
Idearpad. Etherpad source is hosted at http://code.google.com/p/etherpad/.

 

Kind regards,

Bill

From:  
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Drummond 
Reed
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:15 PM
To: Barnhill, 
William [USA]
Cc: Mary McRae; OASIS - XDI TC
Subject: Re: 
[xdi] Agenda: XDI TC Telecon Thursday 1-2PM PT 2010-06-17

Mary,

We're currently only using Idearpad (an instance of 
Etherpad, that has been open-sourced) as a real-time collaboration resource 
during telecons (for which it is incredibly useful for discussions of XDI, where 
dynamic whiteboarding of examples is essential), and then we copy it into the 
minutes, much like W3C uses a copy of their chat channel.

Bill is 
suggested that OASIS could actually host Etherpad as a new dynamic collaboration 
tool with permanent records. That would be awesome, but I know that could take 
awhile to go through the approval chain.

=Drummond 

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Barnhill, William [USA] 
<> 
wrote:

Hi 
  Mary,

Drummond can attest that I am often one of the first to mention 
  that point and did fret a bit about that in this case.
A nice thing though 
  is that the sw is open source so could be hosted by Oasis, and I would 
  recommend that. More later, plane is about to start taxiing.

Kind 
  regards,

Bill Barnhill
Booz Allen Hamilton - Rome, 
  NY
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From: 
  Mary McRae []
Sent: 
  Monday, June 21, 2010 11:39 AM
To: Barnhill, William [USA]
Cc: Drummond 
  Reed; OASIS - XDI TC
Subject: Re: [xdi] Agenda: XDI TC Telecon Thursday 
  1-2PM PT 2010-06-17

  

Please remember that only OASIS-approved resources are to be 
  used for gathering/maintaining any/all information related to the work of the 
  TC and all resources must be publicly 
  viewable.

Regards,

Mary

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  Standards Development
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On Jun 17, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Barnhill, William 
  [USA] wrote:

I'd like to recommend we use http://xdi.idearpad.org/2 
  for the next XDI telecon. For now lets use the same password turtles. I'd also 
  propose that we all add agenda items as we'd like during the week prior to the 
  meeting as well as any related bullet points we want to 
  discuss.

________________________________
From: Barnhill, William 
  [USA] [mailto:]
Sent: 
  Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:07 PM
To: Drummond Reed; OASIS - XDI 
  TC
Subject: RE: [xdi] Agenda: XDI TC Telecon Thursday 1-2PM PT 
  2010-06-17

Created a more easy to remember Idearpad: http://xdi.idearpad.org/1

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  [mailto:] 
  On Behalf Of Drummond Reed

  

  

  
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:03 PM
To: OASIS - XDI 
  TC
Subject: [xdi] Agenda: XDI TC Telecon Thursday 1-2PM PT 
  2010-06-17

Following is the agenda for the unofficial telecon of the 
  XDI TC at:

Date:  Thursday, 17 June 2010 USA
Time:  1:00PM 
  - 2:00PM Pacific Time (21:00-22:00 UTC)

PLEASE DIAL ONE OF THE 
  FOLLOWING NUMBERS:

1) Skype Number: +9900827047990866
(this will 
  connect you directly to the conference room)

2) US/Canada Toll Number: 
  +1-201-793-9022  7990866#

3) International Toll Number (follow 
  this with the Conference Room Number:
7990866#)
Austria (0820 401 
  15470)
Belgium (0703 57 134)
France (0826 109 071)
Germany (0180 500 
  9527)
Ireland (0818 270 968)
Spain (902 885 791)
Switzerland (0848 
  560 397)
United Kingdom/Northern Ireland (0870 0990 
  931)

AGENDA

1) XDI JSON SCHEMA
Bill sent a proposed JSON 
  schema to the list:
 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xdi/201006/msg00022.html
Review 
  and discuss next steps.

2) COMPATABILITY WITH COOL URIS
Giovanni 
  sent a writeup about the use of standard RDF URIs in XDI:
 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xdi/201006/msg00023.html
Review 
  and see if there is concensus about how to encode standard RDF URIs as XDI 
  addresses.

3) XDI ACCESS CONTROL QUESTIONS
Markus sent a proposal 
  for how OAuth access tokens could be used with XDI:
 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xdi/201006/msg00021.html
Review 
  and see how TC members feel about this approach.

4) PDX EXAMPLE 
  DOCUMENT
Continue reviewing the list of questions about

 http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/PdxExample

These 
  included:

-$is
-relationship btw PDX and 
  FOAF
-associativity
-"complex predicate"
-usage of "relative" ref 
  e.g. (/+postal+address)
-"how much" goes in the subject and "how much" in 
  the predicate...
-$ as a suffix

5) OTHER EXAMPLE PDX 
  SCENARIOS

Next steps on Joe Johnston's list

- Social adddress 
  book
- Photo sharing
- Friending
- Chatting
- Event sharing
- 
  Calendaring
- Wiki

6) LINK CONTRACTS

Continue 
  discussion from the list on the following special questions related to link 
  contracts (but not the link contract format itself) raised by Markus:

- 
  If link contracts are enabled at an XDI endpoint and no link contracts exists, 
  what is the "default" behavior? Allow nothing? Allow only $get?
- Can an 
  XDI endpoint have a special notion of the XDI endpoint "belonging" to a 
  user?
- Is yes, does that user automatically have "full rights" to the XDI 
  endpoint outside of normal link contract evaluation?
- As an alternative to 
  signing XDI messages with a key, can an XDI message contain a user's password 
  for authentication?

<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xdi/201001/msg00010.html>

  

  

  
7) NEW BUSINESS

8) NEXT 
  CALL