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Thanks
for the explanation. It now makes sense to me to have "new" as a value. In my
case, I would skip the "new" state and go directly to "needs-translation"
because I create the XLIFF with only text that needs to be
translated.
Yves,
I recommend adding an explanation similar to Gerard's in the specification
document for the "new" value of the "state" attribute.
Regards,
Doug Domeny
Software Analyst
Ektron,
Inc.
+1 603 594-0249 x212
http://www.ektron.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerard Cattin des Bois
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Subject: RE: [xliff] Xliff TC
Teleconference Meeting - 15th April 2003
Toni
actually proposed the new as a way to pre-process the data in order to
determine whether the data needs to be translated, localized or does not need
anything. This is a useful feature to scope the localization effort and
determine loc readiness and needs.
So,
what happens next from New? Possibly needs-<something>, or a
localization directive may be added such as locks.
Thanks,
-G廨ard
G廨ard Cattin des
Bois
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-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Domeny
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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 10:09
AM
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Subject: RE: [xliff]
Xliff TC Teleconference Meeting - 15th April 2003
What
is the difference between state="new" and state="needs-l10n" or one of the
other "needs-" values?
I
use an XSLT to extract all the <trans-unit> elements that need to go to
the translator by keying on the value of the state attribute. If the values
starts with "needs-" then the <trans-unit> is retained. Other values
cause the <trans-unit> to be filtered out of the XLIFF document that is
going to the translator. I use XLIFF documents to store the text, so the
<trans-units> that are added or modified have their state changed to
"needs-translation" or other value that starts with
"needs-".
Following is the XSLT template used to filter out
<trans-unit> elements whose state attributes do not start with
"needs-".
<xsl:template
match="xlf:body/xlf:trans-unit[not(starts-with(xlf:target/@state,
'needs-'))]">
<!-- discard trans-unit elements that are already
translated -->
</xsl:template>
The value "new" does
not indicate what should happen next. It is ambiguous whether it needs to be
translated or not. I would expect one of the following would be used instead:
needs-translation, needs-l10n, needs-adaption.
I recommend removing
"new" from the list of possible state values.
Regards,
Doug Domeny
Software Analyst
Ektron,
Inc.
+1 603 594-0249 x212
http://www.ektron.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Enda McDonnell
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Sent: Wednesday, April 16,
2003 5:44 AM
To:
Subject:
[xliff] Xliff TC Teleconference Meeting - 15th April
2003
Xliff TC Teleconference Meeting
- 15th April
2003
[snip]
3. State Attribute
Enda explained his document/proposal. This
basically outlines 3 issues for the TC
a. Add Finished to the
state attribute list?
b. Split the state attribute value list into two lists, state and
state-qualifier?
c. Move the workflow items to phase.?
Much discussion ensued, the following is the
outcome..
a.
It has been decided to add 'final' to the list of
state values.
Also, other values have been amended; here is a
list of the basic translation states that were decided upon.
new (new item added since
last release)
needs-translation (only the text needs
translation)
needs-l10n (both text and non-textual
information* needs localisation)
needs-adaption (only
non-textual information needs
adaptation)
needs-review-translation (only the text
needs review)
needs-review-l10n (both text and
non-textual information needs
review)
needs-review-adaption (only non-textual
information needs review)
leveraged (indicates a change
was made by an automated process
translated (indicates
)
signed-off (inidcates that changes are reviewed and
approved)
final (indicates the terminating
state**)
It is expected that a segment pass through these,
or a subset of these states during localisation.
Note
*
Non-textual information refers to information such as co-ordinates, font
information, mirroring, etc.
** Signed off may also be used as a
terminating state
[snip]
