1) Previous
mails
2) Problem
restatement
3) Related issues
4) Proposals
1) Previous mails
Issue raised:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00000.html
Response from Yves
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/200407/msg00003.html
2) Problem
restatement
I have a software file that needs
translation
I have a large database containing previous
translations of source segments
I can query this database for valid translations
that I can reuse
Where I have no translation that I can
automatically reuse, I can query the database for candidate matches, and include
these translations as suggested translations using the alt-trans
structures.
I need to monitor how these suggested translations
are used by translators:
a) If a translator can use these suggested
translations, then I can justify paying less for the translation of the
file
b) If a translator accepts one of these
translations, and the translation is found to be in error, either in a review
cycle, or as a reported error in a running product, then I need to identify that
this mistranslation came from my suggestion lookup mechanism and either fix the
mechanism, or reduce the scores generated by this mechanism.
Conversely, good translations made from these
suggestions can be monitored to increase the scoring of the successful
mechanisms
c) Sometimes translators may use one of my
suggested translations as a starting point for the actual translation. I want to
see how much a translator needs to modify what is suggested. I can then compare
what is sent with what is returned
To enable this I want a translation tool to
intercept the action of a translator accepting an alt-trans, either for
translation or as a starting point for translation
For example, A translation tool may show all
related alt-trans elements for a trans-unit in a drop down. When the translator
selects one of these entries, the tool will capture and mark the selected
alt-trans, with this mark included in the returned translated XLIFF
file
3) Related issues
There was a previous but inconclusive discussion
regarding marking each alt-trans regarding its usage
For example, other users may wish to use
alt-trans to specify previous or discarded translations, which is the reverse of
what I want to do
4) Proposals
a) Simple attribute
Include a new Boolean attribute "accepted" in
alt-trans. Default is no
When a translation tool is used to propagate the
alt-trans target to the parent trans-unit target, this attribute is set to
yes
E.G.
<trans-unit id='hi'>
<source>Hello
world</source>
<target>Hola
mundo</target>
<alt-trans
accepted="yes">
<target>Hola mundo</target>
</alt-trans>
</trans-unit>
For -
Very simple
Against-
Requires schema
change
Enforces behaviour of
translation tool
b) Extension
attribute
Same as above but using an extended attribute, with
usage being recommended rather than required
E.G
<trans-unit id='hi'>
<source>Hello
world</source>
<target>Hola
mundo</target>
<alt-trans
xliffextension:acceptedtranslation="yes">
<target>Hola mundo</target>
</alt-trans>
</trans-unit>
For -
Also very simple
Against-
Requires agreement between all
parties as to name of attribute and behaviour of translation tool
c)
Note
Recommend a standard <note> structure
E.G
<trans-unit id='hi'>
<source>Hello
world</source>
<target>Hola
mundo</target>
<alt-trans>
<note>Accepted</note>
<target>Hola mundo</target>
</alt-trans>
</trans-unit>
For -
Also very simple
Against-
Requires agreement between all
parties as to structure of note and behaviour of translation
tool
d) New state
attribute
Include a new "state" attribute within alt-trans
with a closed list of values
E.G
rejected_translation
previous_translation
translation_candidate
accepted_translation_candidate
<trans-unit id='hi'>
<source>Hello
world</source>
<target>Hola
mundo</target>
<alt-trans state="accepted_translation_candidate">
<target>Hola
mundo</target>
</alt-trans>
<alt-trans state="translation_candidate">
<target>&Hola
mundo!</target>
</alt-trans>
<alt-trans state="previous_translation">
<target>Hola
mundo</target>
</alt-trans>
</trans-unit>
For -
Also captures other usages for
alt-trans and prevents improper usage
Against-
Requires schema change and
agreeing closed list of usages
Mat
