RE: [xliff] Call for dissent: csprd02 129 ignorable and fs (RE: Call for dissent: csprd02 )

This seems to have posted three hours after I mailed it. In the meantime Yves and David already resolved this issue.

 

Please ignore this email (pun unintended).

 

From:  [mailto:]
On Behalf Of Schnabel, Bryan S

Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:59 PM

To: Yves Savourel; 

Subject: RE: [xliff] Call for dissent: csprd02 129 ignorable and fs (RE: Call for dissent: csprd02 )

 

Hi Yves,

 

I think David was not referring to the content of <ignorable>. I think he was talking about ignoring its content and just using its presence as a placeholder
 for an HTML preview formatting device. For example (admittedly clunky):

 

For this input:

 

<unit id="1" xmlns:fs="fs" fs:fs="p">

<segment>

  <source fs:fs="b">First sentence.</source>

  <target fs:fs="i">Première phrase.</target>

</segment>

<ignorable fs:fs="br">

  <source><!-- some RTF code "\par\par" --></source>

</ignorable>

<segment>

  <source fs:fs="b">Second sentence.</source>

</segment>

</unit>

 

Apply this XSL:

 

<xsl:template match="*" priority="2">

<xsl:choose>

  <xsl:when test="@fs:fs">

   <xsl:element name="{@fs:fs}">

    <xsl:apply-templates />

   </xsl:element>

  </xsl:when>

  <xsl:otherwise>

   <xsl:apply-templates />

  </xsl:otherwise>

 </xsl:choose>

</xsl:template>

 

<xsl:template match="comment()" priority="3" />

 

And get this preview:

 

<p>

   <b>First sentence.</b>

   <i>Première phrase.</i>

   <br/>

   <b>Second sentence.</b>

</p>

 

 

 

From:
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On Behalf Of Yves Savourel

Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:06 PM

To: 

Subject: RE: [xliff] Call for dissent: csprd02 129 ignorable and fs (RE: Call for dissent: csprd02 )

 

Hi David,

 

If there is an HTML “<br/>” element in <ignorable> it better be in a <data> associated with a <ph>. And the <ph> can have an fs:fs.

 

Cheers,

-yves

 

 

From:
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On Behalf Of Dr. David Filip

Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:39 PM

To: Schnabel, Bryan S

Cc: 

Subject: Re: [xliff] Call for dissent: csprd02 129 ignorable and fs (RE: Call for dissent: csprd02 )

 

Hi Bryan, Yves,

 

while I agree that there is no need for fs on em, becuase there will always be a corresponding sm within a unit to karry the fs info

 

Why not to have it on ignorable, the ignorable could e.g. be made <br/> or what not..

 

So sure the list needs to agree with the set of elements that actually allow it, but why not ignorable?

 

Cheers

dF 

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On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Schnabel, Bryan S <> wrote:

Just resending this with an improved Subject line to enhance findability. CFD unchanged.

 

From: Schnabel, Bryan S

Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:23 PM

To: 

Subject: Call for dissent: csprd02 

 

I checked and Yves is correct <ignorable> and <em> do not have FS attributes. I propose removing them from the list of elements in the FS section.

 

If I do not receive dissent by the end of the week I will consider this approved.

 

Thanks,

 

Bryan

 

129:

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff-comment/201310/msg00015.html

ignorable and fs

 

Hi all,

 

The section describing the fs:fs attribute says:

 

"Used in: <file>, <unit>, <ignorable>, <notes>, <note>, <originalData>, <data>, <cp>, <sc>, <ec>, <ph>, <pc>, <mrk>, <sm>
 and <em>."

 

It's incorrect: <ignorable>, <em> do not have fs attributes.

 

Regards,

-yves