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RE: [xliff] Modified: XLIFF Meeting
Hi David,

I second making these the meeting-minutes of record.

Regards,

Fredrik Estreen

From:  [] on behalf of Dr. David Filip []

Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 11:03 PM

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Subject: Fwd: [xliff] Modified: XLIFF Meeting

Hi all,

this is to propose the below as the meeting minutes of record of our TC meeting held on 18th November.

Please note that we need the approval to forward the ISO request to OASIS leadership.

I am looking for a second.

If seconded during today, these will become the minutes of record unless materially contested by Monday 24 November 2014,  EOD PDT.

Thanks and cheers

dF

Dr. David Filip

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From: David Filip <>

Date: Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:58 PM

Subject: [xliff] Modified: XLIFF Meeting

To: 

Submitter's message

amended ISO submission ballot language 

-- Dr. David Filip

Event Title: 
XLIFF Meeting

Date: Tuesday, 18 November 2014, 11:00am to 12:00pm EST

Description

Please get the dial in information from our private Action Item here:

https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/members/action_item.php?action_item_id=3663

This meeting counts towards voter eligibility.

Agenda

I Administration (0:00 - 0:10)

  A. Roll call

  B. Approved by CFD meeting minutes, 21 October 2014

     
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00027.html

     Approve 4 November meeting minutes

     
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00025.html

        

  C. XLIFF 2.0 as an ISO standard

  E. Deadline for proposing new XLIFF 2.1 features 18 November

 

(* indicates new, not acted upon, since last meeting)

II XLIFF 2.1 (0:10 - 0:45)

  A. Versions and Modules - Yves

     
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201410/msg00037.html

  B. *Provenance and Change Track Module (Yves)

     
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201410/msg00045.html

  C. *ITS: Preserve space and Language Information

       
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201410/msg00054.html

  D. *Quick question on trgLang (Ryan)

       
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201410/msg00061.html

  E. *@disabled in Validation Module. Fix example. Add constraint? (Bryan)

       
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00000.html

  F. TBX – XLIFF Mapping (URL TBD) (DavidF)

  G. Writer or modifier - Yves

     
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00030.html

  H. *internal matches - Joachim

     
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00033.html

  I. *ITS IG Call 2014-11-10 - Yves

     
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00037.html

  J. *Do we have to have the schemas embedded in the specification? - Yves

     
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00040.html

  K. *Terminology data category - Yves

     
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00041.html

  L. *ITS IG ACTION-56: Do write up of processing its+xliff files - Yves

     
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00047.html

  M. *Provenance Data Category - Yves

     
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00052.html

III Sub Committee Report (0:45 - 0:55)

IV Current and New Business (0:55 - )

Minutes

Minutes of XLIFF TC meeting 18th November 2014 

I - Administration

A. Roll call

There were 11 voters present.

Apologies: Bryan

   B. Minutes of 4 November meeting approved as a correct record. Propose – Fredrick Seconded – 

Yves.      https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00025.html

         

   C. XLIFF 2.0 as an ISO standard

 

We have drafted an application to the OASIS leadership proposing that XLIFF 2.0 is proposed to ISO. 

A ballot was proposed by David and seconded by Joachim.

I move that the TC submit XLIFF Version 2.0 OASIS Standard (05 August 2014) to ISO for International Standard and request the TC Officers to present this request to the OASIS President as required
 by the OASIS Liaison Policy (https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/liaison)?

Details of the request are at: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/email/archives/201411/msg00063.html 

This was agreed with 10 votes. Michael 

was not present when called on to vote so is considered to abstain. 

The P & L sub committee will now look after this and get back to the TC when needed.

II XLIFF 2.1 (0:10 - 0:45)

   Deadline for proposing new XLIFF 2.1 features 18 November

  The feature list for 2.1 has been completed today and we are no longer accepting new features for 

2.1.

David stressed with version 2.1 that while there will be no more features there could be less. 

Internal matches – Joachim and TBX – XLIFF Mapping (URL TBD) (DavidF) were discussed as the last new 

features proposed by the deadline. (see below)

The release of 2.1 will be next summer. 

   A. Versions and Modules - Yves

      
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201410/msg00037.html

   B. *Provenance and Change Track Module (Yves)

      
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201410/msg00045.html

   C. *ITS: Preserve space and Language Information

        
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201410/msg00054.html

Fredrick proposed that we should make progress on this. David is currently working on this and Yves 

thaught we had consensus on adding something inline. 

Latest email from Yves:
https://www.oasis-

open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/email/archives/201411/msg00067.html 

Fredrick pointed out you would have to have an ITS attribute but the feature would be useful 

outside ITS.

   D. *Quick question on trgLang (Ryan)

        
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201410/msg00061.html 

David and Bryan said that Ryan had acknowledged this was resolved. Can be removed from agenda going on. 

   E. *@disabled in Validation Module. Fix example. Add constraint? (Bryan)

        
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00000.html

   F. TBX – XLIFF Mapping (URL TBD) (DavidF)

David mentioned that the feeling, apart from him, was that this should not be part of the 

specification. 

David proposed a vote where you voted yes if you want it as a feature and no if you want it as a 

note. 

The vote was 2 votes in favour and 5 against. Four people abstained. 

Fredrick proposed and David seconded that we create a note for XLIFF 2.1 on this. 

This had registered no dissent, so the note creation has been approved by CFD.

This note needs to be on the agenda for the next meeting.

Another Note that needs dveloped is on relationship between 2.x and 1.2

Also needs to be introduced as an agenda point.

Action item 

   G. Writer or modifier - Yves

      
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00030.html 

Yves acknowledged that this has been resvolved on the mailing list and can be removed from agenda. 

   H. *internal matches - Joachim

          
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00033.html 

Joachim raised an issue with his proposal for internal matches? He raised some issues about this and 

mentioned that he had not time to check IP issues with Lionbridge. David said the 

important thing was to list this as a possible 2.1 features at this stage. Joacqium said he was happy 

with this as long as we knew that the elaboration might fail on leagl issues. 

Details of the proposal are available here:
https://www.oasis-

open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/email/archives/201411/msg00055.html 

David asked Joachim to put this on the Wiki

There was a vote to support implementing this feature by 10 votes with Michael recorded as 

abstaining. 

   I. *ITS IG Call 2014-11-10 - Yves

      
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00037.html

   J. *Do we have to have the schemas embedded in the specification? - Yves

      
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00040.html 

Bryan has asked OASIS for confirmation. Fredrick suggested that we should have them outside and 

linked but we need to know whether  keeping them only external is 

allowed.

   K. *Terminology data category - Yves

      
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00041.html

   L. *ITS IG ACTION-56: Do write up of processing its+xliff files - Yves

      
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00047.html

   M. *Provenance Data Category - Yves

      
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201411/msg00052.html

 III Sub Committee Report (0:45 - 0:55)

None – ISO submission dealt with by vote. 

IV Current and New Business (0:55 - )

Next meeting - December

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