Re: [xliff] XLIFF TC Call - Dec-1-2015 - Summary

Thnaks, Yves, 
a correction to the minutes.

The 7th Symposium/FEISGILTT dates will be June 7-8, 2016

I will post this summary into the kavi minutes with this correction

Cheers

dF

Dr. David Filip
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Yves Savourel <> wrote:
Summary for XLIFF TC call of Dec-1-2015.

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--- A. Roll call

- done. Quorum reached.

--- B. Approve meeting minutes, 17 November 2015

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201511/msg00028.html

BS: moves to approve the minutes of last call.

DF: I had a correct for Patrik's name (no 'c')

BS: New URL is: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201512/msg00001.html

FE: seconds

No objections

--- C. Revise scheduled for XLIFF 2.1

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201504/msg00009.html

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201504/msg00014.html

No changes.

Kevin not on the call.

--- D. Requesting progress of ISO submision of XLIFF 2.0

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201506/msg00002.html

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201511/msg00002.html

BS: Peter posted an email with a summary of the progress.

There will be an ISO meeting soon.

DF: met Alan Melby last week and he was positive about the progress of this in ISO.

.. also Alan joined the XLIFF-OMOS TC

--- E. Mandate extension of the XLIFF P&L Subcommittee - Lucía, second from Fredrik

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201511/msg00011.html

BS: the P&L SC was extended.

This topic is closed.

--- F. December/January availability

http://doodle.com/poll/i824ucmuaf2bhvnu

BS: Thanks for doing this Lucia.

.. 11 people answered.

.. for 15th: only 6 yes, so we may not get a quorum

FE: just added 1 yes

BS: so 7 yes. So Quorum should be ok

.. So probably no quorum on Jan-5 probably.

.. but we'll see.

=== II XLIFF 2.1

--- Q. * Proposal For Change Tracking in XLIFF 2.1 (Phil)

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201511/msg00024.html

--- R. * Errors in test suite for Change Tracking module (Yves)

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201511/msg00026.html

--- S. * CTR test suite files

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201511/msg00027.html

BS: will work on fixing those.

.. Should be relatively easy.

YS: Also case of the deletion case.

FE: problem is even wider than that.

.. Cannot refer to objects not there anymore.

.. Constraint should be changed.

.. also we should have a way to say 'this is completely deleted'.

BS: linked to item Q.

PR: we didn't look at that case, but we could.

BS: could you walk us through the proposal?

PR: we try to use the <source>/<target> as the base for <item>

BS: also can we have CTR2.1 in a document XLIFF2.0?

.. could be seen as a custom namespace?

.. but can't have custom namespace overlapping existing feature.

DF: could be an unsupported module.

.. so we would need to add something to prohibit.

.. also: can module be used as extension?

BS: couldn't use same prefix for different namespace.

FS: would not work indeed.

FE: not really an issue to have CTR21. In XLIFF2.0 document, but seen as an extension. Same extension point as a custom namespace.

.. question is should be define the behavior or let the developer do this?

.. would allow any element rather than just the same as in source/target.

.. so it could track extension data as well.

DF: we would benefit of the notion of an XLIFF fragment.

YS: what about implementation

FE: would have to look at appliesTo anyway.

.. e.g. could track changes for group.

.. interpretation should be based on what the item applies to.

.. actually cannot track third-party element, just XLIFF ones.

.. For forward compatibility, we should make sure any elements can be set in the item.

BS: will we add these changes to the 2.1 draft?

.. how are we going to put this is 2.1?

FE: best is probably to make sure this item is tracked so we don't forget about it.

DF: so what should we allow under item?

FE: any elements

DF: XLIFF or module elements?

FE: would avoid coding which modules is allowed.

BS: at some point we'll need to create a proposal for voting

.. this may or may not impact schedule

.. so far it's not added to 2.1.

.. need an owner for the proposal.

DF: we need to see the progress of this item

.. and see if we want to wait or not when the other features are ready.

FS: what that means for ITS module?

DF: hope we don't have to postpone it

FS: have to be realistic. Currently no time planning for the ITS module

.. also new TC will take time away for the module

.. not a good practice to start a new work when the old one is not done yet.

BS: good points

BS: any additional comments?

None.

=== III Sub Committee Report

BS: P&L SC has been re-conducted

DF: we will met on this channel just after this call.

.. questionnaire has additional entries regarding segmentation

.. FE had also possibly additional items

FE: will send it just after this call (apologies to Lucia)

DF: we need to start to gather answers before Christmas

.. and see if we need to re-open it in 2016 Q1

DF: ISO progress: was discussed

DF: also liaison with the new TC (XLIFF-OMOS)

.. Chase Tingley has also join that TC>

DF: next symposium: 7th. Part of FIESGILTT, *June 6-7* in Dublin.

.. call for paper is out

.. needs to start social media advert for this.

=== IV Current and New Business

BS: any?

None

Next call is on Dec-15.

Regrets from Yves

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