RE: [xml-dev] XML-DEV list - prior art

Mr. Bullard:
I am particularly interested in your observation that 
if stealth had been based on citation, it would have 
taken a lot longer to develop."

Seems to me just the opposite might have been the case?
Please explain, why?     Thanks. 

sterling


On Sat, 30 Sep 2006, Len Bullard wrote:

> Note that the paper that made it possible for Lockheed Martin to build
> stealth aircraft was an obscure publication by a Soviet researcher.  In the
> country of origin, it had been ignored.  It was recalled by an American
> engineer/mathematician.   Had any of this been based on citation, stealth
> would have taken a lot longer to develop.  The ideas for using flat surfaces
> and fly by wire were known but the math in that paper sped things up
> critically and enabled the US to take a two-decade leap over their
> adversaries.
> 
> That is why one wants to be deeply aware of all of the crazy ideas out
> there.  Some of them work when the right questions are asked.  
> 
> As to prior art and the patent problem, it is better to have peer review
> than to depend on an overburdened small staff of government reviewers.
> Otherwise, just like unfiltered search results, it is easy to game even if
> expensive.
> 
> The problem of Sterling's suggestion as I understood it was cumulative flat
> citation.  It could work if prior art and domain was bundled into linksets
> that themselves become the reference by which claims are vetted and if that
> checking is highly automated (eg, TVM indices augmented by abstraction of
> logic chains that can be proofed).
> 
> len
> 
> 
> From: Ian Graham [mailto:] 
>  
> This is a fine idea, but I don't see how it could work.
> 
> The 'value' of a scientific (or any academic) paper is in the paper's 
> new ideas -- and tin he references / footnotes giving it context.
> 
> Peer review determines if a paper is 'good enough' to have potential 
> value, or not.
> 
> Insufficient references (or badly formed ideas) means you don't make it 
> past the gate.
> 
> The whole culture of academic writing is built around this model and 
> this notion of value.
> 
> But the value for code is entirely different - value is functionality, 
> cost, time to market, etc ...
> 
> So unless you change the measure of value, this idea won't fly.
> 
> My 2 cents, anyway.
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
> 
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