'Training' these days seems to consist mainly of copy and pasting from Stack
Overflow. We may have mentioned that already, but I have also recently been
pointed to the following that puts 'cloud copy & paste' front and centre in
the IDE:
http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a1166718-a2d9-4a48-a5fd-504ff4ad1b65
Sad times!
Pete Cordell
Codalogic Ltd
C++ tools for C++ programmers, http://codalogic.com
Read & write XML in C++, http://www.xml2cpp.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "G. Ken Holman" <>
To: <>; <>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: [xml-dev] in which I surrender a 15-year-old argument
(transforming the Web)
> At 2014-04-01 17:24 -0400, Simon St.Laurent wrote:
>>I'm not sure Ken Holman will celebrate, given that the transformation
>>layer lately is mostly amalgams of JavaScript. It does seem like yes,
>>though, transformation is rapidly becoming more important as the tasks
>>people perform on the Web become more complex.
>>...
>>Even today, XSLT remains a steep climb for most web developers.
>>Client-side XSLT never found widespread support (though Saxon-CE and
>>Frameless are well worth exploring). XSLT remains alien to most web
>>developers.
>
> Sad but true. And there has been a big drop-off on instructor-led
> training, as few are willing to pay for their staff to learn.
>
>>Instead, we keep reinventing transformation with more familiar tools,
>>often JavaScript tools. Few of these tools aim for the completeness or
>>complexity of XSLT. Unfortunately, though, these tools are fragmented
>>across many different communities (for frameworks) and people building
>>their own versions.
>
> While patterns may begin to emerge, I doubt we will see corporate
> investment in piecemeal solutions. Then again, perhaps the reason I and
> others are not getting any training work is that any such solution,
> standard or not, is never seen as a corporate asset.
>
> And if that is true, then a standardized solution is irrelevant to
> supporting what I think are important corporate issues such as continuity:
> if my developer leaves, will the newly-hired developer know the technology
> I'm using?
>
> But is that a chicken-and-egg problem of getting true skills (not hacks)
> in the general work force?
>
> An interesting post, Simon, thank you.
>
> . . . . . . . . Ken
>
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