Re: [xml-dev] What are the practical, negative consequences of thinking that attributes are metadata?
Yes, the best format for persistent records is not at all clear.
Whether XSD really has a viable place in that quadrant either is not clear too: perhaps for XML databases. But if JSON has removed the need for data binding tools that use XSD, then a lot of XSD's big use-cases disappear, it seems to me.
RegardsWhether XSD really has a viable place in that quadrant either is not clear too: perhaps for XML databases. But if JSON has removed the need for data binding tools that use XSD, then a lot of XSD's big use-cases disappear, it seems to me.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Ihe Onwuka <[email protected]> wrote:
The way Rick sees it makes alot of sense to me (but I would find room for RDF in the picture), whereas I find some of the other comments bemusing.Why isn't there much of a corresponding debate between XML and RDF (or JSON and RDF)?Well XML vs JSON is an issue is because the JSON community see their ecosystem as replacing rather than co-existing alongside other ecosystems (XML in particular). The attitude is JSON and it's ecosystem is all you need. The ability to deploy XSLT/XQuery 3.0 (or JSONiq for that matter) is largely irrelevant, because your chances of being able to deploy any of them in a JSON shop are slim to zero.Given that, being neutral wrt the two formats would imply being perfectly comfortable discarding XML (ecosystem and all) and switching to a typical JSON ecosystem. If I were not comfortable advocating such then I wouldn't be expressing neutrality.On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Rick Jelliffe <[email protected]> wrote:RickStored | i.e. records: XML+XSD | XMLHere is kinda how I see it. How do others see it?| Fields | LiteratureEphemeral | i.e. messages: JSON | HTML
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--------------------------------------------------------------On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Costello, Roger L. <[email protected]> wrote:Simon St. Laurent wrote:
Ø I think that none of the data-centric cases
Ø where this conversation tends to take place
Ø are even appropriate use cases for XML at
Ø this point.
That is a fascinating statement Simon!
Would you elaborate please? I’d like to understand more fully what you mean.
Isn’t XML necessarily about data, i.e., data-focused, data-centric?
What are the appropriate use cases for XML at this point in history?
/Roger