Re: [xml-dev] An XML API using Java streams
Interesting points. (Although I disagree, concerning attributes.) By the way, you misunderstood me - I did not mean to say that XPath could not be improved, but that non-XPath approaches to navigation will probably not excel XPath in terms of expressiveness and readibility.
Michael Kay <[email protected]> schrieb am 17:25 Freitag, 23.Juni 2017:
On 23 Jun 2017, at 11:41, Hans-Juergen Rennau <[email protected]> wrote:As the expressiveness of XPath is excellent (and I think - not to be surpassed),
Well there are certainly some improvements that one could contemplate:
* Separating positional filters from boolean filters so they are syntactically distinct
* A clearer separation between the "/" and "!" operators
* A more orthogonal set of axes, e.g. allowing an "or-self" modifier with any base axis
* Representing attributes using maps rather than as nodes
But yes, the basic model is pretty sound. Axes are functions from nodes to sequences of nodes, the "!" operator is a flatMap() operator, "/" is flatMap followed by deduplication and sorting-into-document-order, boolean predicates a pure filter() operation.
A lot of the messier things come from lack of orthogonality and unnecessary complexity in the data model (notoriously namespaces) and XPath does a pretty good job at smoothing over some terrible cracks.
Michael Kay
Saxonica
any fresh attempt at a navigation model might profit from a comparison of its key principles with the key principles behind XPath. I would summarize the latter as follows:(1) Navigation is a sequence of steps.(2) A step is a mapping of current locations to next loations.(3) A step is either a standard step or a custom step.(4) A standard step has a direction (axis) and a simple standardized filter (node name or kind).(5) A step can be extended by custom filters.(6) The addition of step filters does not increase the complexity of the navigation.(7) Step semantics are self-contained and any step can be applied to any inputMichael Kay <[email protected]> schrieb am 16:00 Donnerstag, 22.Juni 2017:
(2) A great challenge - and perhaps a hopeless one - would be to create an expressiveness which could at least be a far cry of what XPath offers. It is strange to sayN.walk(Axis.child("city")).flatMap(Axis.attribute("name").map(Node::stringValue)when what you really want to say iscity/@nameExcellent point. However, dropping into another language does have all sorts of disadvantages: apart from the learning issues, there's the lack of compile-time syntax checking and type checking, the cost of dynamic compilation/interpretation, etc.One thing to look at, perhaps, is how it translates into Scala, where you can define your own operators:A.flatMap(B) --> A/BA.attribute(B) --> A @ Betc; and then we start to have something very XPath-like, but with a syntax that's compiled and validated by the host language.Michael KaySaxonica