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Re: [xml-dev] Are namespaces actually crypto-entities or crypto-links? (was re: [xml-dev] Napkin grammar)

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Liam R. E. Quin <>
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Re: [xml-dev] Are namespaces actually crypto-entities or crypto-links? (was re: [xml-dev] Napkin grammar)
On Mon, 2021-07-26 at 13:34 +0200, Marcus Reichardt wrote:
> Not familiar with your proposal, do you mind sharing a link and the
> reaction you described? 

https://www.w3.org/2010/Talks/01-07-liam-namespaces/
is a lightning talk i gave about it.


> Admittedly, I personally can't see the point
> of namespaces that are automatically placed. AFAICS, they're
> equivalent to opaque "xmlns:svg" and "xmlns:mathml" attributes
> defaulted to a #FIXED declared value I guess, as in
> 
>     <!ATTLIST (svg|g|...) xmlns:svg CDATA #FIXED "

Web browsers live in a world without DTDs. There was a goal to be able
to add other elements with defaulted namespaces. This in a world in
which putting a colon in a name in markup is considered actively evil
(seriously).

[arch forms]

> That was kindof the point I was trying to make elsewhere ;)
> 
> Only that I think a richer mapping at least involving specific target
> attributes rather than mere renaming of elements and attributes would
> typically be more useful IMO.

Probably, although that wasn't the specific need i was trying to
address with unobtrusive namespaces.


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