RE: [xri] GCS Characters

From
Drummond Reed <>
Date
2008-11-24T07:10:39+00:00
ID
772AC0B1E8C14FDA8163B1ABAD9B0B1C@ELROND
Thread
RE: [xri] GCS Characters
John’s right - =
is just as valid an XRI as @microsoft.com=drummond, and has the same type of
global inference. It’s a reference to the organization in the context of
the individual, and I can think of lots of uses for such a reference.

 

However I think Steve’s original
concern is no longer an issue under the new XRI-as-relative-URI architecture,
because the XRI bound to a base URI is no longer going to be confused with an
email address. Examples:

 

            http://xri.net/@microsoft.com=drummond

            http://xri.net/[email protected]

            info:xri/=

 

In fact, even an ordinary email address
when included in the path of a (non-mailto) URI is no longer an email address –
it’s just a path.

 

            http://xri.net/[email protected]

 

=Drummond 

 

From: John Bradley
[mailto:] 

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008
4:15 PM

To: Markus Sabadello

Cc: OASIS XRI TC; David Orchard

Subject: Re: [xri] GCS Characters

 

You might want to do it for some malicious reason.

 

If we don't preclude it, the syntax  is valid stupid or not.

 

If @microsoft.com=drummond  is a subject in Microsoft's authority
server that it is inferring has something to do with =Drummond then why wouldn't
= be a
subject in =Drummond's authority server hat he is inferring has something to do
with the global @Microsoft.com

 

If we allow it someone will use it and if it can be misused someone
will.

 

Steve's quite legitimate question is will the benefits of
saying = vs =drummond*(@microsoft.com) outweigh the
possible social engineering dangers that are introduced.

 

We need a clear answer to that.  The answer may well be yes they
do, but we need to consider it carefully.

 

John B.

 

 

On 23-Nov-08, at 3:58 PM, Markus Sabadello wrote:

Why would you ever want to put a company into the context of an

individual (what does =
mean??). To me it makes

sense only the other way round, i.e. @microsoft.com=drummond.

And something that never appears anywhere can hardly confuse people, or? :)

Markus

On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:25 PM, John Bradley <> wrote:

I spent some time on the phone yesterday with Steve Churchill reviewing
the

proposal on GCS symbols in XRI 3.0.

 

He reminded me that one of the original objections was allowing:

=

http://xri.net/[email protected]

 

This in 2.0 would be represented as:

=drummond*(@microsoft.com)

http://xri.net/=drummond*(@microsoft.com)

 

In removing the need for parenthesizing cross-references we run the
risk of

people misconstruing direct concatenated XRI as email addresses or
otherwise

trying to read the first XRI segment from right to left.

 

The problem is alleviated slightly by having the XRI bound to a scheme.

 

This is a  social engineering problem rather than a actual
resolution issue.

 

Thoughts?

 

John B.

 

 

 

 

 

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