Re: [bdx] New version of BDEA uploaded

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[ikkel Iippe Crun
Date
2011-03-30T12:15:29+00:00
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Re: [bdx] New version of BDEA uploaded
Hi Pim,

Thank you for kicking the discussion off. See my comments inline below:

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Pim van der Eijk <> wrote:

 

I have not studied this document fully, but here are some 
comments:

 

1) I would recommend starting to use the OASIS specification 
templates as soon as possible, to save yourselves a lot of editing time later 
..

Agree - I have requested a template from OASIS. You cannot download them anymore. They will create a template for us. 

 

2) In an architecture of 4 corner document exchange, I would 
have expected to see an explanation or justification of a 4 corner model of 
communication, and the requirements it addresses.  Instead, the 
introduction starts with a sweeping statement: "It is widely recognized that the 
4-corner model is the right model for secure and reliable exchange of business 
documents between business partners".  I'm not saying I 
diagree.  But given that there has been a massive shift away from service 
provider-based models to peer-to-peer communication and the success 
of protocols like AS2, this statement deserves more justification.

Point taken. Lets elaborate on this. 

 

3) The document proposes that all Access Points 
must support a default transport protocol and proposes a specific transport 
protocol.   We discussed this in the past,  and then it 
was agreed that we would leave such decisions to conformance 
clauses/profiles.  Multiple conformance profiles could make different 
choices. 

I agree that we should leave the decision of which transport protocol to use to the service providers deciding to implement a BDX Infrastructure Instance. However - I believe that we should state that "There MUST be a default transport protocol in a BDX compliant solution".

  

Any proposed default for transport protocol would 
need to be justified, e.g. established market share among service providers 
would perhaps favour adopting AS2 as default protocol since it is the most 
widely used B2B transport protocol in many parts of the 
world.

I agree that we should leave the choice of protocol to the service providers. 

 

4) The document also proposes a participant 
identifier scheme that combines scheme identifier and identifier code.  I'm 
not sure why the specifics of identifier schemes needs to be discussed in an 
architecture document. There are some ISO standard scheme catalogs, such as 
6523, 20022, 9735.  There is also an established OASIS 
party identifier which has been used for some years and is seeing increased 
adoption:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/ebcore/PartyIdType/v1.0/

 

I'm not sure why a new method of concatenating catalog 
identifier, scheme identifier and scheme-specific identifier is 
needed.

 

Pim

 

 

From: Mikkel Hippe Brun 
[mailto:] 
Sent: 30 March 2011 10:56
To: 
Business Document Exchange TC List
Subject: [bdx] New version of BDEA 
uploaded

If you have time before the BDX meeting later today. Take a look at 
the following sections:

  
Overview
  

A model for re-using existing identifier schemes
  

Trust and security
Download Document:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41668/Business_Document_Exchange_Architecture_BEDA_v0p3.pdf

Best 
regards,
Mikkel

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