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1. Kris will ping Dawn on her proposal for diagnostic element, and also update Carlos's proposal with new dates.

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Minutes of the OASIS DITA TC

Tuesday, 21 January 2020

Recorded by Hancy Harrison

link to agenda for this meeting:	

https://wiki.OASIS-open.org/dita/PreviousAgendas

Attendance:

Deb Bissantz, Carsten Brennecke, Bill Burns, Stan Doherty, Kris Eberlein, Carlos Evia, Nancy Harrison, Scott Hudson, Gershon Joseph, Chris Nitchie, Keith Schengili-Roberts, Eric Sirois, Jim Tivy, Frank Wegmann 

Business

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1. Roll call

        Regrets:  Zoe Lawson, Dawn Stevens

2. Approve minutes from previous business meeting:

     07 January 2020

        https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202001/msg00006.html (Harrison, 10 January 2020) 

moved by Kris, 2nd by Bill, approved by TC 

3. DITA 2.0 stage three proposals

[no updates]

4. DITA 2.0 stage two proposals

        Vote

            #292 simpletable update

                https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202001/msg00025.html (Eberlein, 20 January 2020) 

Carlos moved, 2nd by Deb

[Carlos expressed appreciation to Kris for her help]

Voting results:

yes votes:		12 (Deb Bissantz, Carsten Brennecke, Bill Burns, Stan Doherty, Kris Eberlein, Carlos Evia, Nancy Harrison, Scott Hudson, Gershon Joseph, Chris Nitchie, Keith Schengili-Roberts, Eric Sirois)

no votes 		 0

[Reviewers for next stage:  Bill, Carsten]

5. DITA 2.0 terminology as glossary topics

        https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202001/msg00015.html (Doherty, 14 January 2020)

            https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202001/msg00016.html (Hudson, 14 January 2020)

            https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202001/msg00017.html (Doherty, 16 January 2020)

            https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/202001/msg00019.html (Eberlein, 20 January 2020) 

- Stan; we have great glossary technology, we should use it in the spec. Scott and I will standardize what we think it should be and submit it to TC.

- Scott; we use glossaries in my company's doc, so hoping to uncover what we might need for 2.0.

- Stan; we'll come back to TC with an outline of what we propose; goal is to keep identical content.

- Kris; from viewpoint of someone who's been deep in the spec, it might sound like a simpler task than it may turn out to be. There are terms in the spec that can be clearly/crisply defined, and other terms that really need a whole concept topic to describe.

- Stan; well, we'll figure it out as we go along; maybe the glossary entry for a complex term needs to be a sentence or two with a link to a concept topic?  We'll bring our findings back to the TC as we go along.

- Kris; I have some topics I generated and put into a fairly 'gnarly' glossgroup topic, that holds the start of a laundry list of my thoughts on the subject.  In general, coming back to the TC and spec editors with a proposed list of terms sounds very reasonable.

- Stan; fine

- Scott; ok

- Kris; also, please get the IBM style guide, which is what we use in editing the spec; it has good content on glossaries, not from DITA point of view, but very useful.

- Stan; that would be style vs. content.

- Kris; it's available on kindle and from deadtree...   Any comments?

- Deb; I'd be interested in working on it

- Stan; I'll set up a meeting of the 3 of us and we'll work out a plan.

6. Review of DITA 2.0 proposal deadlines

        https://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/DeadlinesDITA2.0 

Stage two

    (Stevens) New diagnostic element for troubleshooting (https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dita/issues/316)

        14 January 2020: Proposal to reviewers (Hudson, Harrison) 

- Kris; this has slipped...

    (Evia) Column/row spanning in simpletable (https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dita/issues/292)

        22 October 2019 05 November 2019 15 November 2019 (./) 10 December 2019: Submit to reviewers (Anderson, Kimber)

        07 January 2020: Initial discussion by TC 

- Kris; do we have a new date?

- Carlos; I'll let you know next week.

Stage three

    (Nitchie) Loosen attribute specialization rules (https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dita/issues/15)

        TBD 

    (Nitchie) Add titlealts elements to map (https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dita/issues/16)

        10 December 2019: Revised stage two proposal to TC 

- Kris; any updates? 

- Chris; I'll plan to get back into this sometime this week; can give you an update next week.

- Kris; just before the break, you sent email to list clarifying issues, and Eliot responded. Anything new from that?

- Chris; we talked about splitting titlealts and linktext proposals, seems like a good idea.

- Kris; I half volunteered to take on linktext proposal, but health issues may impede that.

    (Schengili-Roberts) Strong and em elements (https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dita/issues/107)

        27 January 2020: Proposal to reviewers (Doherty, Evia) 

- Keith; this is on track.

***ActionItem: Kris will ping Dawn on her proposal for diagnostic element, and also update Carlos's proposal with new dates.

7. Spec work completed

        https://wiki.oasis-open.org/dita/editorialWorkCompleted 

- Kris; no updates; as soon as Robert is settled into his new job, we'll go back to work, and interact with glossary team.

8. Approved DITA 2.0 proposals

        Working draft #07

            https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/dita/201912/msg00054.html (Eberlein, 18 December 2019) 

        Tally of approved proposals now included in first topic of PDF 

[no updates]

9. Action items

[updates and changes to items only - see agenda for complete list]

        13 November 2018

            Eliot: Test refactoring of grammar files; due 15 Aug COMPLETED 

        18 December 2018

            Eliot: Investigate issue re earningAggregationsTopicrefConstraintMod.xsd; due 15 Aug COMPLETED 

        28 May 2019: 

            Chris: Look at draft-comment in spec WD03, section 8.2.2.19, page 210 IN PROGRESS 

        19 November 2019

            Zoe: Clean up SVN, with guidance from Kris COMPLETED 

        03 December 2019

            Gershon Joseph: Summarize previous discussions about #28: New publication. Content in minutes and GitHub project card. 

        10 December 2019

            Robert: Handle updates regarding @encoding and nested fallback element for coderef, svgref, and mathmlref elements COMPLETED 

        17 December 2019

            Gershon: Consider where in troubleshooting topic we might want to add draft-comment, if there are any 

- Kris; Gershon, when might we see action on your 2 items?

- Gershon; I should be able to work on them next week, so move dates one month out to end of Feb.

- Kris; great.

Other discussion:

- Carlos; I have a weird request; for a DITA person who speaks Spanish; I doing an intro to a panel in Spanish, and we need a moderator.

- Kris; what about Noz Urbina?

- Gershon; or Julio?

- Carlos; Julio's Spanish isn't at that level, but Noz could do it, if he's available...

- Kris; post to dita-users?

- Carlos; what about Rudolpho?  And I'm wary about being too specific in a posting.

- Kris; the posting doesn't have to be exactly what it's about with all the details; you might turn up unexpected people.

- Carlos; good idea...

- Kris; the agenda is out for DITA/NA; how many TC members will be present? who's presenting at  DITA/NA? at Journeys?

[Kris, Gershon, Scott, Stan, Carsten, Deb, Robert, & Bob Thomas are all presenting at one or the other.]

- Kris; I'm presenting a 'look back at DITA' and moderating the 'overview of 2.0' panel.

close at 11:30

        

-- Ms. Nancy Harrison
        
    

    
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