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RE: discussion list creation

From
Jacques Durand <>
Date
2004-09-23T19:19:53+00:00
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RE: discussion list creation
Title: Message

All:

 

Here is 
then the proposed info for Karl to create the new 
list.

Please 
verify content. If I don't hear from you by tomorrow, that is what I would ask 
Karl to use for initiating this

discussion list. The names of other people who 
responded to a previous call for participation, would

be 
added as first subscribers.

 

Jacques

 

--------------------------

 

1. 
The name of the discussion list: 

ebxml-adoption

 

2. A 
preliminary statement of scope for the TC  (see below):

 

3. The names, 
electronic mail addresses of creators: 

names in the 
JC list (chairs and co-chairs of the ebXMLTCs)

 

4. Name of 
list moderator: 

Matt 
McKenzie.

 

------------------------- start of statement of scope 
(inspired from draft charter)

 

A new forum is being formed to 
facilitate and promote the adoption of ebXML 

(Electronic Business eXtensible 
Markup Language) specifications, and 

their deployment. A concrete outcome 
of this forum will be a recommendation on whether

or not to create an ebXML Adoption 
Technical Committee (TC) under OASIS.

 

The new TC would not create 
technical specifications, but would create promotional, explanatory and 

marketing materials related to the 
implementation and adoption of ebXML. The overall goals 
are:

· To provide a forum for collaboration on facilitating the promotion 
and adoption of ebXML specifications produced by OASIS and 
UN/CEFACT.

· To promote the worldwide adoption of ebXML OASIS Standards (ISO 
15000) and ebXML specifications through marketing awareness and education 
programs.

 

Examples of supporting activities within the 
scope of this TC are: 

 

1. Maintaining 
www.ebxml.org 
<http://www.ebxml.org> as a resource for relevant, accurate 
information:

-Identifying links to materials 
authored by third parties. 

- Maintaining Implementations 
list and Adoption Update 

- Advising OASIS staff 
regarding the look and feel of the site. 

 

2. Creating a vendor- and 
industry-neutral ebXML Users Council (or similar entity) for the 

balanced promotion of use of 
ebXML technologies and methodologies. 

 

3. Supporting 
conference participation by creating a repository of 
promotional material,

identifying speakers, providing 
presentation materials, 

coordinating stand-alone events and 
tracks within conferences.

 

4. Assisting in the coordination and 
promotion of OASIS Interoperability demonstrations involving ebXML

 

5. Identifying the need for 
materials to support adoption, such as white papers, implementation 
guidelines, 

best practices, etc. The TC 
will then identify and solicit contributors from the originating ebXML 
TCs, 

who can help produce this 
material.

 

6. Producing data sheets and/or 
brochures for distribution at conferences, seminars and other meetings. 

 

7. Gather market data or 
project data worldwide, in a consistent way, and relay business and market 
requirements 

to the ebXML technical 
committees. 

 

The new TC could also work to 
align with relevant efforts of other organizations, such as RosettaNet, the Open Applications 
Group Inc. 

(OAGI) and the United Nations 
Centre for Trade Facilitation and eBusiness (UN/CEFACT) organization. Organizations 
developing or 

promoting ebXML methodologies 
will be invited to participate subject to  OASIS 
rules.

 

Although the TC will not act as 
an accounting entity and will not have proper funds,  it may solicit 
resources and contributions 

from its members and 
outside its membership, for the direct funding of its activities.

 

The TC will not publish 
normative public guidance about existing ebXML specifications 
that contradicts the approved 
texts. 

It may gather new requirements, 
suggestions for change or extension, but these will be first submitted to the relevant 
originating TC, 

and then both TCs will 
cooperate on proposing appropriate deployment guidelines that address 
these shortcomings, 

expressed in a manner that does not 
undermine the approved specifications.

------------------------- end of 
statement

  
-----Original Message-----
From: Breininger, Kathryn R 
  [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, September 
  23, 2004 8:36 AM
To: Jacques Durand; 
  
Cc: 
  
Subject: RE: [ebxml-jc] an 
  update

  
Jacques,

  
I 
  was a little unclear on the discussion list so want to try to clarify what I 
  was thinking.  I believe we should request Karl set up the discussion 
  list so that it can be made publicly available with a call for 
  participation.  This will also provide broad visibility of the discussion 
  list, and hopefully pull in additional people.  Of course Matt (who 
  offered to lead the discussion list) and the names listed below 
  would be subscribed to the list once it is set up.  
  Additionally, Karl would be posting the list and call for participation to the 
  OASIS membership, and we could forward the call for participation to ebXML-dev 
  and other lists as appropriate. 

  
 

  
Here 
  is the section on OASIS discussion lists - seems a very simple and straight 
  forward process!

  
 

  

  
(a). TC Discussion Lists

  
Any group of at least three Eligible Persons shall be authorized to begin a 
  publicly subscribable discussion list for the purpose of forming a TC by 
  submitting to OASIS TC Administration the following items:

  
    
The name of the discussion list, which shall not be the same as the name 
    of the list in which the TC itself will operate once formed; 
    
A preliminary statement of scope for the TC that the list is intended to 
    form; 
    
The names, electronic mail addresses, and membership affiliations of the 
    Eligible Persons proposing to create the discussion list; and 
    
The name of the discussion list leader. 

  
No later than 15 days following the submission, OASIS TC Administration 
  shall provide these materials to the membership with a Call For Participation 
  in a discussion list whose purpose is to form the TC described in the 
  application. Discussion of TC formation shall begin on the list no sooner than 
  seven days after the announcement. More than one TC can be formed from a 
  discussion list. A list established to discuss the formation of a TC under 
  provisions of this section shall automatically go out of existence 90 days 
  after the call for participation, together with its 
  archive.

  
We have the 
  first two items done, item 3 would be the JC members, and item 4 would be 
  Matt. 

  
 

  
Was 
  this what you had in mind as well?

  
Kathryn

  
 

  
    

    
-----Original Message-----
From: Jacques Durand 
    [mailto:] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 
    2004 1:50 PM
To: 
    ''
Subject: [ebxml-jc] an 
    update

    
Quick update on the call today (restating 
    minutes): 

    
- we have given homework to everyone who did not 
    complain (including absentees  ;-) 

    
1. White paper: 

    
we'd like to see a rough outline (bullet list of what 
    would be developed in each part of the paper) by next meeting (October 
    6).

    
That is not too hard a first step: takes between 30mn 
    and 1h for each assignee. 

    
See the current structure of the paper below, which is 
    still flexible. 
Parts have beem (partially) 
    assigned as follows. 

    
1. ebXML: the Requirements, the Approach 
    (TBD, thinking of a marketing team member, David Webber?) 
2. Messaging (preferred: Ian - can reuse one of your 
    presentations material? someone from MS TC can assist here too) 
    
3. Business 
    Transactions and Collaborations (Monica/Dale) 
4. Collaboration Protocol Agreements (Dale) 
    
5. The Registry-Repository 
    (Kathryn) 
6. Standardizing 
    COntent (Jon Bosak?) 
7. Testing 
    ebXML (Jacques) 
8. Deploying 
    ebXML in a SOA environment (Matt) 
9. Who deploys ebXML today (a marketing person may consolidate and 
    edit the input we provide) 

    
2. ebXML Adoption discussion list: 

    
I propose we create this list asap with participants 
    below 
(at same time we are considering 
    broadening the sending of the invite to ebxml-mktg / ebxml-dev. Any opinion 
    on this?) 

    
- members of JC (let us know if you don't) 
    
- Joe Speed () 
- Lisa Schiltz 
    () 
- Dick 
    Brooks () 
- 
    Patrick Hogan () 
- 
    David Webber () 
    
- OASIS management (Carol? other?) 

    
Regards, 

    
Jacques 

    
----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
    
ebXML White Paper Synopsis 
    
========================== 

    
NOTES: 
- the audience is "technical executive", say CTO 
    and IT management, since they are decision makers on 
adopting ebXML. Yet the style should resonate with 
    vertical users with a B2B experience (e.g. EDI). 
- also, for those already familiar with ebXML, the 
    paper should give a feel of the future version. 
- Each section would average 3-5 pages (overall 
    paper between 30-50 pages, including figures). 
Sections don't have to give an exhaustive view of 
    the material referred to, nor a balanced summary, 
but should convey the rationale behind it, and may 
    focus on a few remarkable features. 
Each section could include a short FAQ at the end. 
- The outline below is rather classic, in breaking 
    down by component. It could be different: describe 
first the ISO version, then separately the future 
    version (But the latter is too unstable today to deserve 
a full section.) Or, could downplay the components 
    and focus more on the integrated view, how everything 
works together, giving away features details while 
    unwinding scenarios & use cases. I though it would 
be sufficient to have Section 1 do a bit of this 
    binding-it-all-together job. 
- we 
    could involve marketing team to do Section #9. 

    
1. ebXML: the Requirements, the Approach 
    

    
- short definition: an ISO standard for 
    Exchanging business messages, Conducting trading relationships, 
    
Defining and registering business 
    processes, Communicating data in common terms, Assembling business 
    transactions. 
- the business case 
    (EDI-compatible in both content and architecture, accessible to SMEs, 
    non-managed env., 
covering all 
    partners of a supply chain, XML-based) 
- an integrated approach of B2B focusing on interoperability needs, 
    yet loose coupling with back-end systems. 
- transitioning to ebXML (migration path) 
    
- anatomy of an ebXML deployment 
    (showing architecture, the interaction steps in usage scenarios) 

    
2. Messaging 

    
- Overview of current version 
    
(requirements & design 
    principles, summary of salient features, some use cases, relationship with 
    other ebXML parts) 
(this has to 
    be described in a creative way: not a tech report,  but rationale and 
    differentiation with what 
exists 
    outside) 
- the roadmap: what is 
    next, the new requirements. (Web services protocols, payload services, 
    richer MEPs...) 

    
3. Business Transactions and 
    Collaborations 

    
- Overview of current version 
    
(requirements & design 
    principles, summary of salient features, use case, relationship with other 
    ebXML parts) 
- the roadmap: what 
    is next, the new requirements. 

    
4. Collaboration Protocol 
    Agreements 

    
- Overview of current version 
    
(requirements & design 
    principles, summary of salient features, use case, relationship with other 
    ebXML parts) 
- the roadmap: what 
    is next, the new requirements. 

    
5. The Registry-Repository 

    
- Overview of current version 
    
(requirements & design 
    principles, summary of salient features, use case, relationship with other 
    ebXML parts) 
- the roadmap: what 
    is next, the new requirements. 

    
6. Standardizing COntent 

    
- Core components (requirements & 
    design principles, summary of salient features) 
- UBL 

    
7. Testing ebXML 

    
- Summary of Interop tests in US, Asia, 
    Europe. 
- the role of IIC, test 
    suites and test framework. 

    
8. Deploying ebXML in a SOA 
    environment 
- where ebXML fits in 
    (example arch from GM) 
- pilot 
    projects (AIAG...) 

    
9. Who deploys ebXML 
- survey 
- what do people do with ebXML, value they see.
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