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EML : TODAY'S CALL

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John Borras <>
Date
2009-05-12T07:37:03+00:00
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EML : TODAY'S CALL
Hi All

 

Can I have confirmation of who will be on the call today
please.  So far I know David, Joe, Sven for definite with Paul a possible.  

 

I need to know in advance so I can set up the Skype conference call.

 

John

 

From: John Borras 

Sent: 16 April 2009 17:30

To: 'EML TC'

Subject: RE: FW: [election-services] EML next steps with JTC1 (interim
update)

 

Thanks for the replies.  Let’s go for 12th May
at 10.00 am EST / 16.00 CET.   Is everyone happy to use Skype? 

 

Paul – I’ll send you a separate e-mail about your access.

 

David – I’m sure I can reply on you to send out the necessary
papers for review several days before the call can’t I?

 

John

 

From: John Borras 

Sent: 10 April 2009 13:41

To: 'David RR Webber (XML)'; EML TC

Subject: RE: FW: [election-services] EML next steps with JTC1 (interim
update)

 

Hi All

 

How does either 12th or 13th May suit
everyone for a TC call ?  Best time would be afternoon in Europe/UK and
morning in USA.  (Paul – don’t know what that would be in Abu Dhabi if
you’re still there then)

 

John

 

From: David RR Webber (XML)
[mailto:] 

Sent: 09 April 2009 19:10

To: John Borras

Cc: EML TC

Subject: RE: FW: [election-services] EML next steps with JTC1 (interim
update)

 

John,

 

How about 2nd week in May - to give people time to review things
after I've posted them?

 

Thanks, DW

-------- Original Message
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Subject: RE: FW: [election-services] EML next steps with JTC1 (interim

update)

From: "John Borras" <>

Date: Thu, April 09, 2009 3:30 am

To: "David RR Webber (XML)" <>

Cc: "EML TC" <>

David

 

Thanks for the update and the apparent v good progress.  I’ll
certainly help with the documentation changes, might be a good opportunity to
re-vamp some of them as they are a bit impenetrable now and off-putting to
new-comers.

 

Would it be worth getting a date it the diary now for  a TC
call to review the schema changes given how busy people are?  From what
you’re saying maybe first week in May?

 

John

 

From: David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:] 

Sent: 08 April 2009 16:39

To: John Borras

Cc: EML TC

Subject: RE: FW: [election-services]
EML next steps with JTC1 (interim update)

 

John,

 

I believe I'm almost done on the base V6 wishes changes - retiring
the 120 is the last piece there.

 

Then I need to move out shortly on the new message for polling
place location for the VIP folks.

 

I'm hoping to have a draft on that in next couple of weeks
(borrowing heavily from what OASIS EDXL has already done for Google map
applications) - then after that - it just depends how quickly we solidify that
new schema...

 

Then generate the final documentation - (think I can almost
entirely automate most of that now from the schema) - John I'd like your help
in editing general text V5 -> V6 global changes on all that though - and we
should be ready for first committee draft.

 

Thanks, DW

-------- Original Message --------

Subject: FW: [election-services] EML next steps with JTC1 (interim

update)

From: "John Borras" <>

Date: Tue, April 07, 2009 7:08 am

To: "EML TC" <>

Colleagues

In the light of this we should be looking to complete our v6 development

work in the next couple of months so that means providing David with all

the help and advice he needs please.

David - no pressure .....-) but what's your projected timetable and

would it help to have a TC call to discuss any aspects of v6?

John

-----Original Message-----

From: John Borras 

Sent: 07 April 2009 12:05

To: 'James Bryce Clark'

Cc: 'Laurent Liscia'; 'Carol Cosgrove-Sacks'; EML TC

Subject: RE: [election-services] EML next steps with JTC1 (interim

update)

Jamie

Thanks very much for this update. I don't see anything in this to

change the view of the TC that we should press ahead with v6 and then

submit that version to ISO later this year. Indeed we are well into our

v6 work now and will press ahead with all due speed on that - depending

how fast David W can go!! I'll come back to you for further advice on a

new ISO submission when we are further through the OASIS approvals

process.

Regards

John

Skype: gov3john

m. +44 (0)7976 157745

-----Original Message-----

From: James Bryce Clark [mailto:]

Sent: 05 April 2009 00:14

To: John Borras

Cc: 'Laurent Liscia'; 'Carol Cosgrove-Sacks'; James Bryce Clark; EML TC

Subject: [election-services] EML next steps with JTC1 (interim update)

This is an interim report on our OASIS submission arrangements with 

ISO/IEC JTC1, which as you know the Elections TC hopes to use later 

this year.

We talked earlier about JTC1's wide-ranging debates over how 

external submissions like the "PAS" submissions from OASIS are 

handled. We discussed this at your meeting, when you considered the 

state of EML v5, and the TC decided to hold any request for JTC1 

submission until your next major version, EML v6, expected later 

this calendar year.

Since then, the JTC1 leadership has asked us to visit with the 

leaders of one relevant subcommittee, SC34, which we have done in a 

series of meetings, and worked out some possible ground rules for 

future handling of versions, errata, and the like,. These 

recommendations are being provided both to JTC1 (who will act to 

formally accept them in June or thereabouts). Shortly I expect to 

hear back from the just-completed SC34 meetings in Prague, where 

they were planning to endorse those principles in writing.

At the same time we are working on the same issues with the OASIS 

Board of Directors, who created a committee (on which I sit) to 

review and revise our own rules for these submissions. Their work 

should be done within a month, and I will report it to you. It is 

my hope that they will adopt the same basic principles that JTC1 

plans to recommend. So far the two groups seem to be converging 

nicely on common solutions. The Board is considering what other 

rules and requirements it wishes to apply, because the Liaison 

Policy (covering external submissions) has not been reviewed for 

several years; as I mentioned to you when we spoke, we should know 

shortly whether any other rules or plans will come from that review.

I think we're still on the course predicted when we spoke earlier 

this year: by the time your committee has v6 ready to go, we should 

have a commonly-understood and updated set of submission and 

cooperation rules to use as well.

Thanks for all of the work you are putting into EML, and we'll look 

forward to working with you to advance it once the current version 

is ready.

Kind regards Jamie

~ James Bryce Clark

~ Director of Standards Development, OASIS

~ http://www.oasis-open.org/who/staff.php#clark

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