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Subject: Re: [emergency] Groups - CAP 1.1 Subcommittee Draft(CAP_1.1-draft_1-4-05) uploaded

From: Art Botterell <>

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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:21:08 -0500

And the TC chose not to act on it then, for whatever reason.  Now 
it's 2005 and we're considering it again.  That's how these things 
go.  ;-)

- Art

At 7:01 AM -0600 1/18/05, Jeff Kyser wrote:
>Actually, I sent the same language to Allen Wyke
>who posted it to this list July 14, 2004 :-)
>
>-jeff
>
>On Jan 18, 2005, at 6:39 AM, Art Botterell wrote:
>
>>At last, a constructive suggestion!  Personally I'd have no problem 
>>with that suggested language, although my opinion isn't what 
>>matters. I think this issue was referred back to the GIS 
>>subcommittee last week, so I'm forwarding this to them.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>- Art
>>
>>At 5:44 AM -0600 1/18/05, Jeff Kyser wrote:
>>>Still seems to me that the following is clearer
>>>and more precise (Section 3.3.1):
>>>
>>>	Latitudes in the Southern Hemisphere and longitudes in the
>>>	Western Hemisphere are signed negative with a leading dash.
>>>
>>>(as opposed to 'Coordinates in the Southern and Western Hemispheres ...')
>>>
>>>A similar sentence has been added to Section 1.5, it would benefit from
>>>the same language.
>>>
>>>-jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>On Jan 9, 2005, at 10:14 PM, Art Botterell wrote:
>>>
>>>>Bob -
>>>>
>>>>Your concern was discussed at some length by both the GIS and 
>>>>Messaging Subcommittees.  During the 11/30 call the Messaging 
>>>>Subcommittee took up Issue 14 and voted to stick with this 
>>>>formulation, which is in line with GIS industry and ISO usage.
>>>>
>>>>Of course you're welcome to offer an amendment to the full TC for 
>>>>discussion on our next call, hopefully with some specific 
>>>>alternate language.  After that it'll be up to the Committee.
>>>>
>>>>- Art
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 10:35 PM -0500 1/9/05, Bob Wyman wrote:
>>>>>Art Botterell wrote:
>>>>>>  The CAP 1.1 spec as approved by the Messaging Subcommittee.  
>>>>>>Please
>>>>>>  review for approval to move it to public comment ASAP.
>>>>>	In the issues list for the CAP specification, it is stated that
>>>>>issue 14 would be addressed in 1.1... Yet, the offending and non-sensical
>>>>>sentence "Coordinates in the Southern and Western hemispheres are signed
>>>>>negative with a leading dash." remains in the specification. As 
>>>>>I have been
>>>>>saying, since before 1.0 was approved by this working group, "coordinates"
>>>>>can't be signed -- only the components of a coordinate can be signed.
>>>>>	I suggest that an effort should be made to incorporate committed
>>>>>changes to the specification before it is released for public comment.
>>>>>
>>>>>	bob wyman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>