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Subject: Re: [emergency-msg] Re: [emergency] Groups - CAP 1.1 Subcommittee Draft (CAP_1.1-draft_1-4-05) uploaded

From: Jeff Kyser <>

To: Art Botterell <>

Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:27:03 -0600

Okay, that's fine. Not like I never changed
my mind... :)

BTW, I'm getting e-mail back from 
when I post, but I'm guessing it is the replies to your account
rather than the mailing list?

-jeff

On Jan 18, 2005, at 7:21 AM, Art Botterell wrote:

> And the TC chose not to act on it then, for whatever reason.  Now it's  
> 2005 and we're considering it again.  That's how these things go.  ;-)
>
> - Art
>
>
> At 7:01 AM -0600 1/18/05, Jeff Kyser wrote:
>> Actually, I sent the same language to Allen Wyke
>> who posted it to this list July 14, 2004 :-)
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2005, at 6:39 AM, Art Botterell wrote:
>>
>>> At last, a constructive suggestion!  Personally I'd have no problem  
>>> with that suggested language, although my opinion isn't what  
>>> matters. I think this issue was referred back to the GIS  
>>> subcommittee last week, so I'm forwarding this to them.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> - Art
>>>
>>> At 5:44 AM -0600 1/18/05, Jeff Kyser wrote:
>>>> Still seems to me that the following is clearer
>>>> and more precise (Section 3.3.1):
>>>>
>>>> 	Latitudes in the Southern Hemisphere and longitudes in the
>>>> 	Western Hemisphere are signed negative with a leading dash.
>>>>
>>>> (as opposed to 'Coordinates in the Southern and Western Hemispheres  
>>>> ...')
>>>>
>>>> A similar sentence has been added to Section 1.5, it would benefit  
>>>> from
>>>> the same language.
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 9, 2005, at 10:14 PM, Art Botterell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bob -
>>>>>
>>>>> Your concern was discussed at some length by both the GIS and  
>>>>> Messaging Subcommittees.  During the 11/30 call the Messaging  
>>>>> Subcommittee took up Issue 14 and voted to stick with this  
>>>>> formulation, which is in line with GIS industry and ISO usage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you're welcome to offer an amendment to the full TC for  
>>>>> discussion on our next call, hopefully with some specific  
>>>>> alternate language.  After that it'll be up to the Committee.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Art
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 10:35 PM -0500 1/9/05, Bob Wyman wrote:
>>>>>> Art Botterell wrote:
>>>>>>>  The CAP 1.1 spec as approved by the Messaging Subcommittee.   
>>>>>>> Please
>>>>>>>  review for approval to move it to public comment ASAP.
>>>>>> 	In the issues list for the CAP specification, it is stated that
>>>>>> issue 14 would be addressed in 1.1... Yet, the offending and  
>>>>>> non-sensical
>>>>>> sentence "Coordinates in the Southern and Western hemispheres are  
>>>>>> signed
>>>>>> negative with a leading dash." remains in the specification. As I  
>>>>>> have been
>>>>>> saying, since before 1.0 was approved by this working group,  
>>>>>> "coordinates"
>>>>>> can't be signed -- only the components of a coordinate can be  
>>>>>> signed.
>>>>>> 	I suggest that an effort should be made to incorporate committed
>>>>>> changes to the specification before it is released for public  
>>>>>> comment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	bob wyman
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>