Approved minutes of 9/18 conf-call

Ashok: Attendance:


Ashok: Mike E


anish: Agenda:


anish: Agenda:

1.    Roll Call



2.    Scribe Assignment



3.    Agenda Bashing



4.    Approval of minutes of 14 aug 2008


http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/opencsa-liaison/email/archives/200808/msg00009.html


5.     Issues



a.    Getting schema document associated with a particular version of

the spec

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/opencsa-liaison/200805/msg00017.html


Discussion on 5/16 con-call: see above draft minutes


continuation of discussion dependent on Anish providing a sample RDDL to

serve as a basis for discussion.


6. OpenCSA Project Management


The issue du jour is how to get Testing going?

The SCA BPEL TC on their Sep 11 conf-call [1] discussed and approved the

LSC's proposal for TC schedule and milestones [2]. However, it was

pointed out that many details are necessary in order for the TC to

realistically aim for the deadline and milestone of - 'Nov 15, 2008 -

Detailed design for testing work'.


Given that the different SCA TCs would benefit by undertaking a

concerted effort for the testing related efforts, the SCA BPEL TC would

like to request the LSC to look into this matter and provide more details.


This topic was also discussed at the last Steering Committee call with

basically the same concern being raised.



7.    AOB


Ashok: Attendance:  Mike, Jeff, Sanjay, Anish, Ashok, Dave


Ashok: Minutes from last meeting approved.


Ashok: Anish:  Getting schema document is done ...


Ashok: I sent out the RDDL document


Ashok: Topic:  Testing


Ashok: Dave:  We need a group of people thinking abt testing for all the

specs


Ashok: Mike:  I think people are reluctant to work on this.  What can

this committee do abt this


anish: wrt RDDL document we did resolve this issue on 8/14, but there

was no issue logged to resolve.


anish:

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/opencsa-liaison/200808/msg00011.html


Ashok: Ashok:  Put testing as big item on f2f


anish: it is now issue 3


Ashok: Dave:  We have no power to get anyone to volunteer for this


anish: here is sanjay's email regarding RDDL:

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/opencsa-liaison/200808/msg00012.html


anish: This requires me to update RDDL to point only to CS/OS schemas

rather than CD schemas


anish: so there is an AI on me


Ashok: Mike:  I can restart the calls for the testing committee on

testing  ... but I must be able to get a few folks on the calls


Ashok: Sanjay:  Agrees we shd discuss at f2f


Ashok: MikeE:  I'll restart the testing calls


anish: mike, we'll have to pick a new time for the testing call


anish: the old time was 8am pdt on mondays and that is now taken by sca-j


Mike Edwards: Sure- new time / new people


Ashok: Jeff:  Anyone thought about how to do it


Ashok: MikeE:  What would a test harness look like?  That's a first step.


Ashok: f2f is 30th, 1st, 2nd, 3rd


Ashok: Jeff:  Let's start testing calls before that


anish: Mike to propose testing calls on either 8am wednesday pdt or 8am

friday pdt


anish: action: anish to send out a new RDDL that has older schemas only

for CS/OS and not for CDs


anish: Attendance+: Bryan


anish: Topic: next calls


anish: next week's call cancelled


anish: (25th sept call cancelled)


anish: 2nd oct call is also cancelled because of the f2f


anish: Next call oct 9


anish: topic: Project mgmt


anish: Discussion in the steering committee about chairs providing

reports on issue status


anish: Jeff: have a standing thing in the agenda about status of issues:

number of issues that were opened/closed etc since the last meeting.

Stats that would allow the SC to monitor progress and see if things are

converging


anish: ... something that is lightweight but allow one to monitor progress


anonymous: Each TC should document in each published

minutes the number of open issues counted at the start

of the meeting and new issues documented at the last

meeting


anish: <the above is from SC>


anish: The stats that the SC would like are: number of issues at the

start of the meeting, number of issues opened in that meeting, number of

issues closed in that meeting


anish: Meeting ajourned