RE: [plcs-tog] OASIS PLCS TC concept model

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@igel @ewling
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RE: [plcs-tog] OASIS PLCS TC concept model
Title: OASIS PLCS TC concept model

One 
feels a little giddy after a run through the slide show, but it is making good 
progress. Just a few thoughts :

 

  
I 
  still prefer "business concept" to "component". What we are trying 
  to capture is a scrap of the AP 239 data model that implements a 
  recurring set of information, definable in a business context and 
  recognisable across industry pillars. The objective is provide an aid 
  that will lead to consistent mapping of disparate legacy data forms to a 
  common AP 239 rendering.

  
 

  
Business Exchange Specifications are unlikely to 
  "define" Business Reference Data, as this is a concept that is only just 
  starting to enter the domain. "points to the need for" may be a better 
  representation.

  
 

  
I am 
  not sure how a "component" leads to the development of an OASIS exchange 
  requirement - does the  business exchange requirement not present itself 
  directly as a candidate for standardisation at OASIS?

  
 

  
Should there not be a link from "OASIS  List of 
  Exchange  Specifications" 
  to "OASIS DEX  Specification" 
  along the lines of "TOG approval to 
  create"?

  
 

  
What is 
  added by differentiating between an "OASIS DEX  Specification" 
  and 
  a "DEX  Specification" ? 

  
 

  
Suggest that a "Business Exchange 
  Specification" will "map to" a "DEX  Specification"

  
 

  
What is 
  the difference between "OASIS Reference Data" and "PLCS Core Reference 
  Data" 
? 

Nigel

 

 

 -----Original 
Message-----
From: Rutland, Phil 
[mailto:]
Sent: 12 October 2005 13:59
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Subject: 
[plcs-tog] OASIS PLCS TC concept model

  
Mats,

  
 

  
We 
  have spent some more time on the concept model and come up with a new 'UK 
  MoD' version (see attached). We have only done this because recreating your 
  version (as a slide show) made it easier to get the concepts clear in our own 
  minds. We have also attempted to describe some of the 
  'boxes'

  
 

  
We 
  offer this as a contribution to the development of the final version. 
  Feel free to comment on any errors, misconceptions, inconsistencies 
  etc.

  
 

  
Over 
  to you 

  
 

  
 

  
Phil

  
    
-----Original Message-----
From:  
    [mailto:]
Sent: 06 October 2005 
    08:58
To: ; 
    
Subject: SV: [plcs-tog] OASIS PLCS 
    TC concept model

    
I like the slideshow. Excellent! Much easier to 
    follow.

    
 

    
Some remarks:

    
- 
    In my opinion, 'term' and 'name' are synonymns. A term has no definition. A 
    term "labels" a concept. A 'concept' has one or more terms/names 
    and a definition (possibly in different languages).

    

    
- 
    Is 'EX ...' short for EXchange or should it be 'DEX 
    ...'?
- There are two 'ISO 10303 Application Module' 
    boxes.

    
- 
    I like the idea of not using the 'Business Concept' term. I'm not sure I 
    quite understand what you've suggested instead. Could you explain it in 
    words?!

    
Regards, 
  Mats 
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Mats Nilsson, 
    FMV

    
 

    

    
    Från: Rutland, Phil 
    [mailto:] 
Skickat: den 5 oktober 2005 
    17:22
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Ämne: 
    [plcs-tog] OASIS PLCS TC concept model

    

    
All,

I've been looking at this and 
    come up with the attached version.

    
 

    
I've removed "Business Concept" and tried to 
    identify how OASIS DEX's are created along with the link between various 
    reference data levels.

    
 

    
It 
    can be viewed as a whole or in slideshow mode when it will build (my idea of 
    trying to explain it!).

    
 

    
Phil Rutland

    
      
-----Original Message-----
From:  
      [mailto:]
Sent: 03 October 2005 
      17:33
To: 
Subject: 
      [plcs-tog] OASIS PLCS TC concept model

      
Hi all, 

      
I was given the task in Amsterdam to produce a 
      first draft of a 'OASIS PLCS TC concept model' in order to help to clarify 
      the meaning of the terms we comunicate between us. Please feel free to 
      modify the document during the discussion. I do not guarantee that the 
      model is correct even at this basic stage. More terms should be inserted 
      and more connections added. 

      
<<OASIS PLCS TC Concept 
      Model.ppt>> 
Two thing are worth 
      mentioning: 

      
1- A suggestion from the TOG meeting in 
      Amsterdam is that the term "DEX" should no longer be used alone. Instead 
      "DEX Specification" should be used when refering to the specifications in 
      DEXlib. Packages of data exchanged between parties are from now on "DEX 
      Files". "DEX ..." is to be read as "Data Exchange ...". Anyone breaking 
      the rule is punished with ten pushups!

      
2- The term "Business Concept" is not clear. 
      Therefore I've introduced the term "Business Concept Specification" for 
      the definition stored in DEXlib. The model hopefully makes this 
      understandable... More explanation regarding this new term (but old 
      concept) is needed.

      
My suggestion is that this concept model (when 
      "completed") will be considered as a guiding document after it has been 
      balloted.

      
Does anyone have access to a proper software 
      modelling tool instead of powerpoint? 

      
Let the fight begin... ;o) 

      
Vänliga hälsningar, 
  Mats 
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      -
Mats Nilsson 
FMV KE LogMetod, rum C358 

      
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