RE: [plcs-tog] OASIS PLCS TC concept model

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RE: [plcs-tog] OASIS PLCS TC concept model
Title: OASIS PLCS TC concept model

Phil/Mats & et al,

 

this is all good work in essence, but I do have some issues 
with what is being done.

 

For example the purpose behind the "concept model" is not 
at all clear to me. 

 

(Is it to define the terms being used? Is it to define the 
architecture? Is it to define the process of development? Is it to define usage? 
Is it to define types of concepts? Is it define tool support? Or to produce some 
sort of roadmap of concepts and where they are used?)

 

Whilst I like the idea of having a conceptual roadmap, I 
fear that mixing up these concepts may create confusion. The relationship 
between this and those items I refer to above is important and will need to be 
clarified at some point.

 

Having said that, I have added some personal comments in 
the spirit of the effort & modified the presentation a little - if it 
stimulates or clarifies debate, then so much the better...

 

regards,

Tim

From: Rutland, Phil [mailto:] 

Sent: 12 October 2005 08:59
To: ''; 

Subject: [plcs-tog] OASIS PLCS TC 
concept model

Mats,

 

We 
have spent some more time on the concept model and come up with a new 'UK 
MoD' version (see attached). We have only done this because recreating your 
version (as a slide show) made it easier to get the concepts clear in our own 
minds. We have also attempted to describe some of the 
'boxes'

 

We 
offer this as a contribution to the development of the final version. Feel 
free to comment on any errors, misconceptions, inconsistencies 
etc.

 

Over 
to you 

 

 

Phil

  
-----Original Message-----
From:  
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Sent: 06 October 2005 
  08:58
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Subject: SV: [plcs-tog] OASIS PLCS TC 
  concept model

  
I like the slideshow. Excellent! Much easier to 
  follow.

  
 

  
Some 
  remarks:

  
- In 
  my opinion, 'term' and 'name' are synonymns. A term has no definition. A term 
  "labels" a concept. A 'concept' has one or more terms/names and a 
  definition (possibly in different languages).

  

  
- Is 
  'EX ...' short for EXchange or should it be 'DEX ...'?
- 
  There are two 'ISO 10303 Application Module' boxes.

  
- I 
  like the idea of not using the 'Business Concept' term. I'm not sure I quite 
  understand what you've suggested instead. Could you explain it in 
  words?!

  
Regards, 
  Mats 
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Mats Nilsson, 
  FMV

  
 

  

  
  Från: Rutland, Phil 
  [mailto:] 
Skickat: den 5 oktober 2005 
  17:22
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Ämne: 
  [plcs-tog] OASIS PLCS TC concept model

  

  
All,

I've been looking at this and come 
  up with the attached version.

  
 

  
I've 
  removed "Business Concept" and tried to identify how OASIS DEX's are created 
  along with the link between various reference data levels.

  
 

  
It 
  can be viewed as a whole or in slideshow mode when it will build (my idea of 
  trying to explain it!).

  
 

  
Phil 
  Rutland

  
    
-----Original Message-----
From:  
    [mailto:]
Sent: 03 October 2005 
    17:33
To: 
Subject: 
    [plcs-tog] OASIS PLCS TC concept model

    
Hi all, 

    
I was given the task in Amsterdam to produce a 
    first draft of a 'OASIS PLCS TC concept model' in order to help to clarify 
    the meaning of the terms we comunicate between us. Please feel free to 
    modify the document during the discussion. I do not guarantee that the model 
    is correct even at this basic stage. More terms should be inserted and more 
    connections added. 

    
<<OASIS PLCS TC Concept 
    Model.ppt>> 
Two thing are worth 
    mentioning: 

    
1- A suggestion from the TOG meeting in Amsterdam 
    is that the term "DEX" should no longer be used alone. Instead "DEX 
    Specification" should be used when refering to the specifications in DEXlib. 
    Packages of data exchanged between parties are from now on "DEX Files". "DEX 
    ..." is to be read as "Data Exchange ...". Anyone breaking the rule is 
    punished with ten pushups!

    
2- The term "Business Concept" is not clear. 
    Therefore I've introduced the term "Business Concept Specification" for the 
    definition stored in DEXlib. The model hopefully makes this 
    understandable... More explanation regarding this new term (but old concept) 
    is needed.

    
My suggestion is that this concept model (when 
    "completed") will be considered as a guiding document after it has been 
    balloted.

    
Does anyone have access to a proper software 
    modelling tool instead of powerpoint? 

    
Let the fight begin... ;o) 

    
Vänliga hälsningar, 
  Mats 
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Mats Nilsson 
FMV KE 
    LogMetod, rum C358 

    
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