Neil
Thanks for the quick and informative response. I'm sure John will be
interested in this and will want to lift the lid on it all a bit more with
you.
I sense from what you've said it's not an unachievable requirement nowadays
and in fact is something we should look to promote in our new TC?
John
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Sent: 23 August 2012 15:27
To: John Borras
Cc: ; 'Wailing John (OCIO)'
Subject: Re: [public-sector-cloud-discuss] FW: Public Cloud Requirement
Hi Johns
There's a couple of points to answer this. First and simplest yes there are
vendors who do exactly that, they encapsulate your app into a virtual
container so that you can migrate it to X Cloud provider. I can make some
intros if you like.
There are standards and common technologies relevant to this abstraction
process, in particular JClouds: http://www.jclouds.org/. This is used by the
Cloud Service Brokers to facilitate portability across the marketplace
providers for example.
With regards to achieving active-active app replication across multiple data
centres as a result of this process, that's a bit trickier but again there
are emerging vendors catering for this.
We actually just published a paper on this specific topic, focusing on the
Canadian imperative to address the downtime risks of their legacy estate
that their Auditor General recently identified, see "Always On Digital
Government":
http://cloudbestpractices.net/2012/08/13/always-on-paper/
Kind regards, Neil.
> Please see the note from John Wailing below. Does anyone have any
> views or experience of the requirement that he has set out? Is it
> something we could include within the scope of the new TC? I'm not
> suggesting that the TC would come up with the technical answer to this
> problem but more that it's yet another requirement to add to the list
> that we are looking to produce.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wailing John (OCIO) [mailto:]
> Sent: 23 August 2012 13:35
> To: Dee Schur
> Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk'; Ian Osborne; McDonagh Denise;
> John Borras; Hartley Dominic
> Subject: RE: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium
>
> Thanks for the thought. I also find that it will be impossible to attend.
> However, having spoken to John B, I increasingly see a need for
> someone
> (you) to get a grip on 'Cloud' standards/models.
>
> We seek the convenience, agility and economy of commoditising the
> development and hosting of our big (line of business, transactional,
> inherently reliable) systems. The trick seems to be to create the
> application to run in some abstracted hosting environment (a container
> of some description?) so that it can be hosted anywhere (probably in
> at least two places running active-active with load sharing). At the
> moment testing typically requires the developer to have at least one
> environment and the hosting service to have a least 2, pre-prod and
> prod. Some functional testing will always be needed but much of our
> testing is centred on how the application will perform in the
> production environment. Need to get away from this in times to come! I
> have glossed over rather a lot but you will get the drift!
>
>
> Regards
> John
> T: +44 (0) 20 7035 6683 M: +44 (0)780 3510072 Lorraine Tuitt
> can fix slots in my diary: 020 7035 3490
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Osborne [mailto:]
> Sent: 17 August 2012 18:40
> To: Dee Schur; McDonagh Denise; Wailing John (OCIO)
> Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk'
> Subject: RE: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium
>
> Dee, Apologies, I am unable to participate in this event owing to a
> prior commitment. Ian
>
> Ian Osborne
>
> M:+44 7793 258219
> ________________________________________
> From: Dee Schur []
> Sent: 17 August 2012 18:08
> To: 'McDonagh Denise'; Home Office, John Wailing; Ian Osborne
> Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk'; 'Dee Schur'
> Subject: RE: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium
>
> Hi Denise, John and Ian,
> Do you have an update on your availability to speak at the
> International Cloud Symposium? Please scroll down and have a peek at
> all the policy makers that have already registered to attend,
> http://www.eventbrite.com/event/4009281870?ref=ebtnebregn
>
> Please let me know if I can answer any questions -- I look forward to
> your reply.
> Regards,
> dee
>
> Dee Schur
> Senior Manager - Standards Advocate
> OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
> http://www.oasis-open.org
> +1.781.425.5073 x211
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dee Schur [mailto:]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:23 PM
> To: 'McDonagh Denise'; ''
> Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk'; ''
> Subject: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium
>
> Hi Denise and John,
> We are featuring a session at the International Cloud Symposium (ICS),
> https://www.oasis-open.org/events/cloud/2012, focused on Digital
> Government to include discussions on G-Cloud and Cloud First
> activities.
> We would be grateful if either of you would consider presenting on the
> G-Cloud topic during the first session, 10 October 2012, but we do
> have flexibility if 11 October would suit you better. If this does not
> work for either of you, please feel free to recommend a colleague. To
> get an idea of the type of program we coordinate, please have a peek
> at last year's ICS website held in the London area,
> http://events.oasis-open.org/home/cloud/2011
> If you have any questions or would like more information, feel free to
> contact me or Jane Harnad. I am looking forward to your reply.
> Best regards,
> dee
>
>
> Dee Schur
> Senior Manager - Standards Advocate
> OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
> http://www.oasis-open.org
> +1.781.425.5073 x211
>
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