Absolutely John. Transformation of legacy systems to enable more Agile
enhancement and maintenance of them and also achieve multi-site resilience
is the top line business goals I would suggest the public sector can and
should seek from Cloud migration, and this could indeed be the headline
purpose and value of our group.
Kind regards, Neil.
> Neil
>
> Thanks for the quick and informative response. I'm sure John will be
> interested in this and will want to lift the lid on it all a bit more with
> you.
>
> I sense from what you've said it's not an unachievable requirement
> nowadays
> and in fact is something we should look to promote in our new TC?
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of
> Neil
> McEvoy
> Sent: 23 August 2012 15:27
> To: John Borras
> Cc: ; 'Wailing John
> (OCIO)'
> Subject: Re: [public-sector-cloud-discuss] FW: Public Cloud Requirement
>
>
> Hi Johns
>
> There's a couple of points to answer this. First and simplest yes there
> are
> vendors who do exactly that, they encapsulate your app into a virtual
> container so that you can migrate it to X Cloud provider. I can make some
> intros if you like.
>
> There are standards and common technologies relevant to this abstraction
> process, in particular JClouds: http://www.jclouds.org/. This is used by
> the
> Cloud Service Brokers to facilitate portability across the marketplace
> providers for example.
>
> With regards to achieving active-active app replication across multiple
> data
> centres as a result of this process, that's a bit trickier but again there
> are emerging vendors catering for this.
>
> We actually just published a paper on this specific topic, focusing on the
> Canadian imperative to address the downtime risks of their legacy estate
> that their Auditor General recently identified, see "Always On Digital
> Government":
>
> http://cloudbestpractices.net/2012/08/13/always-on-paper/
>
> Kind regards, Neil.
>
>
>
>> Please see the note from John Wailing below. Does anyone have any
>> views or experience of the requirement that he has set out? Is it
>> something we could include within the scope of the new TC? I'm not
>> suggesting that the TC would come up with the technical answer to this
>> problem but more that it's yet another requirement to add to the list
>> that we are looking to produce.
>>
>> John
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wailing John (OCIO) [mailto:]
>> Sent: 23 August 2012 13:35
>> To: Dee Schur
>> Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk'; Ian Osborne; McDonagh Denise;
>> John Borras; Hartley Dominic
>> Subject: RE: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium
>>
>> Thanks for the thought. I also find that it will be impossible to
>> attend.
>> However, having spoken to John B, I increasingly see a need for
>> someone
>> (you) to get a grip on 'Cloud' standards/models.
>>
>> We seek the convenience, agility and economy of commoditising the
>> development and hosting of our big (line of business, transactional,
>> inherently reliable) systems. The trick seems to be to create the
>> application to run in some abstracted hosting environment (a container
>> of some description?) so that it can be hosted anywhere (probably in
>> at least two places running active-active with load sharing). At the
>> moment testing typically requires the developer to have at least one
>> environment and the hosting service to have a least 2, pre-prod and
>> prod. Some functional testing will always be needed but much of our
>> testing is centred on how the application will perform in the
>> production environment. Need to get away from this in times to come! I
>> have glossed over rather a lot but you will get the drift!
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> John
>> T: +44 (0) 20 7035 6683 M: +44 (0)780 3510072 Lorraine Tuitt
>> can fix slots in my diary: 020 7035 3490
>> mailto:
>> Office of the Chief Information Officer, Financial and Corporate
>> Services Group, Home Office, 4th Floor SW Seacole Building, 2 Marsham
>> Street SW1P 4DF
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ian Osborne [mailto:]
>> Sent: 17 August 2012 18:40
>> To: Dee Schur; McDonagh Denise; Wailing John (OCIO)
>> Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk'
>> Subject: RE: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium
>>
>> Dee, Apologies, I am unable to participate in this event owing to a
>> prior commitment. Ian
>>
>> Ian Osborne
>>
>> M:+44 7793 258219
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Dee Schur []
>> Sent: 17 August 2012 18:08
>> To: 'McDonagh Denise'; Home Office, John Wailing; Ian Osborne
>> Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk'; 'Dee Schur'
>> Subject: RE: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium
>>
>> Hi Denise, John and Ian,
>> Do you have an update on your availability to speak at the
>> International Cloud Symposium? Please scroll down and have a peek at
>> all the policy makers that have already registered to attend,
>> http://www.eventbrite.com/event/4009281870?ref=ebtnebregn
>>
>> Please let me know if I can answer any questions -- I look forward to
>> your reply.
>> Regards,
>> dee
>>
>> Dee Schur
>> Senior Manager - Standards Advocate
>> OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
>> http://www.oasis-open.org
>> +1.781.425.5073 x211
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dee Schur [mailto:]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:23 PM
>> To: 'McDonagh Denise'; ''
>> Cc: 'Jane Harnad'; 'Pim van der Eijk'; ''
>> Subject: Invitation to speak at International Cloud Symposium
>>
>> Hi Denise and John,
>> We are featuring a session at the International Cloud Symposium (ICS),
>> https://www.oasis-open.org/events/cloud/2012, focused on Digital
>> Government to include discussions on G-Cloud and Cloud First
>> activities.
>> We would be grateful if either of you would consider presenting on the
>> G-Cloud topic during the first session, 10 October 2012, but we do
>> have flexibility if 11 October would suit you better. If this does not
>> work for either of you, please feel free to recommend a colleague. To
>> get an idea of the type of program we coordinate, please have a peek
>> at last year's ICS website held in the London area,
>> http://events.oasis-open.org/home/cloud/2011
>> If you have any questions or would like more information, feel free to
>> contact me or Jane Harnad. I am looking forward to your reply.
>> Best regards,
>> dee
>>
>>
>> Dee Schur
>> Senior Manager - Standards Advocate
>> OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
>> http://www.oasis-open.org
>> +1.781.425.5073 x211
>>
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