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Draft Minutes of 2008-06-17 are attached
Title: SCA-Assy - 2008-06-17
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SCA-Assembly TC
Teleconference
17 JUN 2008
Attendees
Present
fred carter, (AmberPoint)
Mark Combellack, (Avaya, Inc.)
Dale Moberg, (Axway Software*)
Vince Kowalski, (BMC)
Tom Rutt, (Fujitsu Limited*)
Robert Freund, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Eisaku Nishiyama, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Eric Wells, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Bryan Aupperle, (IBM)
Michael Beisiegel, (IBM)
David Booz, (IBM)
Mike Edwards, (IBM)
Simon Holdsworth, (IBM)
Dieter Koenig, (IBM)
Simon Moser, (IBM)
Simon Nash, (IBM)
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
Khanderao Kand, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Rich Levinson, (Oracle Corporation)
Jeff Mischkinsky, (Oracle Corporation)
Vladislav Bezrukov, (SAP AG*)
Plamen Pavlov, (SAP AG*)
Peter Walker, (Sun Microsystems)
Sabin Ielceanu, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Scott Vorthmann, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Chairs
Mike Edwards
Martin Chapman
Scribe
Bob Freund
Agenda:
1. Opening
Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 3/4th June
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/28563/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-06-03.html
3. Action Items:
2008-04-28-1: Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html
2008-06-03-1: Karmarkar to produce a refined proposal for Issue 60 containing details and example during the lunch break
Done at the F2F (and the issue WAS resolved)
2008-06-03-2: Update the minutes to change Issue XX to Issue 66
Done
2008-06-03-3: Simon Nash to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the lines of the F2F discussion so that profitable
discussion may continue this meeting.
2008-06-03-4: Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification test to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24
2008-06-03-5: Editors to produce a plan to accomplish the action above due=2008-06-10
2008-06-03-6: Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
2008-06-03-7: ref Assembly-16 Edwards to look into the question of aliases
2008-06-03-8: ref Assembly-16 Nash to look into how binding uris may be handled
2008-06-03-9: Mike Edwards to prepare a proposal for addressing Assembly-8 based on some of the discussions at the F2F
2008-06-03-10: Mike Edwards, raise an issue relating to deployment and redeployment and the granularity and semantics of these
processes
2008-06-03-11: Mike Edwards - Question of handling changes of property values (including multi-values) - should be part of
the discussion of Issue 41
2008-06-03-12: Anish Karmarkar to bring back the resolution of issue 52 back to the BPEL TC ("close no action")
2008-06-03-13: Nash/Edwards prepare proposal text for Assembly-56
2008-06-03-14: Editors construct a plan for the next CD
2008-06-03-15: Chairs to ensure that JIRA is up to date with the closed issue status in CD-01
2008-06-03-16: TC Members with East Coast USA facilities consider hosting next F2F in week of Sept 29, for approximately 18-20
persons
4. New Issues
ISSUE 67: Component Type file name is too restrictive
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-67
ISSUE 68: ComponentType Properties should not have a source
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-68
ISSUE 69: Language neutrality edits
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-69
5. Existing Issues
ASSEMBLY-53 Contribution Extension Model
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-53
Proposal is contained in this email
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200805/msg00037.html
Discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200805/msg00044.html
ASSEMBLY-41 Conflicting domain-level deployments
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-41
Requires a writeup based on discussions at the F2F
ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37
Waiting for a write-up based on discussions at the F2F meeting
ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16
Proposal requires write-up of 2 separate action items from the F2F
ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8
Waiting for a write-up based on the discussions at the F2F
Assembly-56 Need to clarify definition of Bidirectional Interfaces
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-56
Waiting for a proposal writeup
ASSEMBLY-33 Long-Running Request-Response Operations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33
Waiting on a write up based on the discussions at the F2F
7. AOB
Contents
Topics
[1]
Opening
[2]
Action Items
[3]
New Issues
[4]
New Issue Assembly-67: Component Type file name is too restrictive http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-67
[5]
New Issue Assembly-68: ComponentType Properties should not have a source http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-68
[6]
New Issue Assembly-69: Language neutrality edits http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-69
[7]
Existing Issues
[8]
ASSEMBLY-53 Contribution Extension Model http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-53
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items
Action Items
Old:
2008-04-28-1: id=2008-04-28-1 status=pending Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html
2008-06-03-1: id=2008-06-03-1 status=done Karmarkar to produce a refined proposal for Issue 60 containing details and example during the
lunch break
2008-06-03-2: id=2008-06-03-2 status=done Update the minutes to change Issue XX to Issue 66
2008-06-03-3: id=2008-06-03-3 status=pending owner=Karmarkar&Nash Simon Nash to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the
lines of the F2F discussion so that profitable discussion may continue this meeting.
2008-06-03-4: id=2008-06-03-4 status=pending Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification text to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24
2008-06-03-5: id=2008-06-03-5 status=pending Editors to produce a plan to label normative statements or groups of statements in the spec
due=2008-06-10
2008-06-03-6: id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending owner=Edwards Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
2008-06-03-7: id=2008-06-03-7 status=pending ref Assembly-16 Edwards to look into the question of aliases
2008-06-03-8: id=2008-06-03-8 status=pending ref Assembly-16 Nash to look into how binding uris may be handled
2008-06-03-9: id=2008-06-03-9 status=pending Mike Edwards to prepare a proposal for addressing Assembly-8 based on some of the discussions
at the F2F
2008-06-03-10: id=2008-06-03-10 status=pending Mike Edwards, raise an issue relating to deployment and redeployment and the granularity and
semantics of these processes
2008-06-03-11: id=2008-06-03-11 status=pending Mike Edwards - Question of handling changes of property values (including multi-values) -
should be part of the discussion of Issue 41
2008-06-03-12: id=2008-06-03-12 status=pending Anish Karmarkar to bring back the resolution of issue 52 back to the BPEL TC ("close no action")
2008-06-03-13: id=2008-06-03-13 status=pending Nash/Edwards prepare proposal text for Assembly-56
2008-06-03-14: id=2008-06-03-14 status=pending Editors construct a plan for the next CD
2008-06-03-15: id=2008-06-03-15 status=pending Chairs to ensure that JIRA is up to date with the closed issue status in CD-01
2008-06-03-16: id=2008-06-03-16 status=pending TC Members with East Coast USA facilities consider hosting next F2F in week of Sept 29, for
approximately 18-20 persons
New:
2008-06-17-1: Aupperle to develop a re-worked proposal for the resolution of Assembly-53 based on the discussions of 2008-06-17
Resolutions
2008-06-17-1: Minutes of 2008-06-03/04 approved w/o
2008-06-17-2: m:Aupperle s:Moberg New issue 67 opened w/o
2008-06-17-3: Resolve Assembly-67 with "The component type is defined by a componentType element in the componentType file. The extension
of a componentType file MUST be .componentType and its name and location depends on the type of the component implementation:
the specifics are described in the respective client and implementation model specification for the implementation type."
w/o
2008-06-17-4: m:Aupperle s:Karmarkar Assembly-68 opened w/o
2008-06-17-5: m:Aupperle s:Karmarkar Resolve Assembly-68 with the proposal contained in the JIRA w/o
2008-06-17-6: m:Aupperle s:Nash New Issue Assembly-69 opened w/o
2008-06-17-7: Resolve Assembly-69 by listing all of the standardized interface and implementation types defined by the various SCA TCs in
the relevant places w/o
Minutes
Scribe: Bob Freund
Opening
Roll quorate with 20 of 31 voting members.
<Eric Wells>
I will scribe next week
Agenda - Agreed
Resolution: Minutes of 2008-06-03/04 approved w/o
Action Items
Action: id=2008-04-28-1 status=pending Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html
Action: id=2008-06-03-1 status=done Karmarkar to produce a refined proposal for Issue 60 containing details and example during the
lunch break
Action: id=2008-06-03-2 status=done Update the minutes to change Issue XX to Issue 66
Action: id=2008-06-03-3 status=pending owner=Karmarkar&Nash Simon Nash to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the
lines of the F2F discussion so that profitable discussion may continue this meeting.
Action: id=2008-06-03-4 status=pending Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification text to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24
Action: id=2008-06-03-5 status=pending Editors to produce a plan to label normative statements or groups of statements in the spec
due=2008-06-10
Action: id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending owner=Edwards Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
Action: id=2008-06-03-7 status=pending ref Assembly-16 Edwards to look into the question of aliases
Action: id=2008-06-03-8 status=pending ref Assembly-16 Nash to look into how binding uris may be handled
Action: id=2008-06-03-9 status=pending Mike Edwards to prepare a proposal for addressing Assembly-8 based on some of the discussions
at the F2F
Action: id=2008-06-03-10 status=pending Mike Edwards, raise an issue relating to deployment and redeployment and the granularity and
semantics of these processes
Action: id=2008-06-03-11 status=pending Mike Edwards - Question of handling changes of property values (including multi-values) -
should be part of the discussion of Issue 41
Action: id=2008-06-03-12 status=pending Anish Karmarkar to bring back the resolution of issue 52 back to the BPEL TC ("close no action")
Action: id=2008-06-03-13 status=pending Nash/Edwards prepare proposal text for Assembly-56
Action: id=2008-06-03-14 status=pending Editors construct a plan for the next CD
Action: id=2008-06-03-15 status=pending Chairs to ensure that JIRA is up to date with the closed issue status in CD-01
Action: id=2008-06-03-16 status=pending TC Members with East Coast USA facilities consider hosting next F2F in week of Sept 29, for
approximately 18-20 persons
New Issues
New Issue Assembly-67: Component Type file name is too restrictive http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-67
Aupperle describes his new issue
Resolution: m:Aupperle s:Moberg New issue 67 opened w/o
<Bryan Aupperle>
The component type is defined by a componentType element in the componentType file. The extension of a componentType files
is .componentType but its name and location depends on the type of the component implementation: the specifics are described
in the respective client and implementation model specification for the implementation type.
Motion: m:Aupperle s:Moberg Assembly-67 beresolved with "The component type is defined by a componentType element in the componentType
file. The extension of a componentType files is .componentType but its name and location depends on the type of the component
implementation: the specifics are described in the respective client and implementation model specification for the implementation
type."
Amendment: m:Chapman s:Aupperle s/The extension of a componentType files is .componentType /The extension of a componentType file MUST
be .componentType/ w/o
Motion: as amended Resolve Assembly-67 with "The component type is defined by a componentType element in the componentType file. The
extension of a componentType file MUST be .componentType and its name and location depends on the type of the component implementation:
the specifics are described in the respective client and implementation model specification for the implementation type."
Resolution: Resolve Assembly-67 with "The component type is defined by a componentType element in the componentType file. The extension
of a componentType file MUST be .componentType and its name and location depends on the type of the component implementation:
the specifics are described in the respective client and implementation model specification for the implementation type."
w/o
New Issue Assembly-68: ComponentType Properties should not have a source http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-68
Aupperle describes his new issue
Resolution: m:Aupperle s:Karmarkar Assembly-68 opened w/o
Resolution: m:Aupperle s:Karmarkar Resolve Assembly-68 with the proposal contained in the JIRA w/o
New Issue Assembly-69: Language neutrality edits http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-69
Aupperle describes what he characterizes as a purely editorial issue
<anish>
since these are examples, we should list the artifacts from all the sister TCs
Resolution: m:Aupperle s:Nash New Issue Assembly-69 opened w/o
Motion: m:Nash Resolve Assembly-69 by listing all of the standardized interface and implementation types defined by the various SCA
TCs in the relevant places
Resolution: Resolve Assembly-69 by listing all of the standardized interface and implementation types defined by the various SCA TCs in
the relevant places w/o
Existing Issues
ASSEMBLY-53 Contribution Extension Model http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-53
Proposal is contained in this email http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200805/msg00037.html
Discussion - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200805/msg00044.html
Aupperle discussed the issue
<Bryan Aupperle>
Technologies that use naming schemes other than QNames must use a different import element from the same substitution group
as the the SCA <import> element. The element used identifies the technology, and may use any value for the namespace that
is appropriate for that technology. For example, <import.java> can be used can be used to import java definitions, in which
case the namespace should be a fully qualified package name.
<Bryan Aupperle>
The above is from CD 01
Action: Aupperle to develop a re-worked proposal for the resolution of Assembly-53 based on the discussions of 2008-06-17
[End of Minutes]
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