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Draft Minutes of 2008-07-01 are attached
Title: SCA-Assy - 2008-07-01
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SCA-Assembly TC
Teleconference
01 JUL 2008
Attendees
Present
fred carter, (AmberPoint)
Mark Combellack, (Avaya, Inc.)
Tom Rutt, (Fujitsu Limited*)
Robert Freund, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Eric Wells, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
Bryan Aupperle, (IBM)
Michael Beisiegel, (IBM)
David Booz, (IBM)
Graham Charters, (IBM)
Mike Edwards, (IBM)
Simon Holdsworth, (IBM)
Simon Nash, (IBM)
Jim Marino, (Individual)
Peter Furniss, (Iris Financial Solutions Ltd.)
Jeff Estefan, (Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*)
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
David DiFranco, (Oracle Corporation)
Khanderao Kand, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Rich Levinson, (Oracle Corporation)
Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)
Jeff Mischkinsky, (Oracle Corporation)
Vladislav Bezrukov, (SAP AG*)
Plamen Pavlov, (SAP AG*)
Peter Walker, (Sun Microsystems)
Chairs
Mike Edwards
Martin Chapman
Scribe
Bob Freund
Agenda:
1. Opening
Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 24th June
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/28701/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-06-24.html
3. Action Items:
2008-04-28-1: Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html
2008-06-03-3: Simon Nash to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the lines of the F2F discussion so that profitable
discussion may continue this meeting.
2008-06-03-4: Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification test to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24
2008-06-03-6: Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
2008-06-03-7: ref Assembly-16 Edwards to look into the question of aliases
2008-06-03-8: ref Assembly-16 Nash to look into how binding uris may be handled
2008-06-03-9: Mike Edwards to prepare a proposal for addressing Assembly-8 based on some of the discussions at the F2F
2008-06-03-11: Mike Edwards - Question of handling changes of property values (including multi-values) - should be part of
the discussion of Issue 41
2008-06-03-13: Nash/Edwards prepare proposal text for Assembly-56
2008-06-17-1: Bryan Aupperle to develop a re-worked proposal for the resolution of Assembly-53 based on the discussions of
2008-06-17
4. New Issues
ASSEMBLY-70 Deployment, Redeployment - Granularity and Semantics
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-70
ASSEMBLY-71Implementation.composite pseudo-schema incorrect
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-71
5. Existing Issues
Assembly-56 Need to clarify definition of Bidirectional Interfaces
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-56
Waiting for a proposal writeup
ASSEMBLY-53 Contribution Extension Model
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-53
Updated proposal is contained in this email
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200806/msg00043.html
ASSEMBLY-41 Conflicting domain-level deployments
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-41
Requires a writeup based on discussions at the F2F
ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37
Waiting for a write-up based on discussions at the F2F meeting
ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16
Proposal requires write-up of 2 separate action items from the F2F
ASSEMBLY-33 Long-Running Request-Response Operations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33
Waiting on a write up based on the discussions at the F2F
ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8
Waiting for a write-up based on the discussions at the F2F
7. AOB
Contents
Topics
[1]
Opening
[2]
Action Items
[3]
Problems that Editors found with resolved issues
[4]
F2F Logistics - Sept 30-Oct 3 in Boston
[5]
New Issues
[6]
New Issue ASSEMBLY-71 Implementation.composite pseudo-schema incorrect http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-71
[7]
Existing Issues
[8]
Assembly-56 Need to clarify definition of Bidirectional Interfaces
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-56
[9]
AOB
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items
Action Items
Old:
2008-04-28-1: id=2008-04-28-1 status=pending Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html
2008-06-03-3: id=2008-06-03-3 status=pending Simon Nash and Anish Karmarkar to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the lines
of the F2F discussion so that profitable discussion may continue this meeting.
2008-06-03-4: id=2008-06-03-4 status=pending Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification test to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24
2008-06-03-6: id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
2008-06-03-7: id=2008-06-03-7 status=done ref Assembly-16 Edwards to look into the question of aliases
2008-06-03-8: id=2008-06-03-8 status=pending ref Assembly-16 Nash to look into how binding uris may be handled
2008-06-03-9: id=2008-06-03-9 status=pending Mike Edwards to prepare a proposal for addressing Assembly-8 based on some of the discussions
at the F2F
2008-06-03-11: id=2008-06-03-11 status=pending Mike Edwards - Question of handling changes of property values (including multi-values) -
should be part of the discussion of Issue 41
2008-06-03-13: id=2008-06-03-13 status=done Nash/Edwards prepare proposal text for Assembly-56
2008-06-17-1: id=2008-06-17-1 status=done Bryan Aupperle to develop a re-worked proposal for the resolution of Assembly-53 based on the
discussions of 2008-06-17
New:
Resolutions
2008-07-01-1: minutes of 2008-06-24 approved w/o
2008-07-01-2: m:Edwards s:Combellack New Issue Assembly-70 opened w/o
2008-07-01-3: m:Aupperle s:Mischkinsky New Issue Assembly-71 opened w/o
Minutes
Scribe: Bob Freund
Opening
Roll - quorate with 20 of 30 voting members
<Mike Edwards>
Agenda Bashing:
<Mike Edwards>
Add Discussion of Problems with Issues found by Editors
Agenda - addition of f2f logistics and problems with resolved issues found by editors
<Mike Edwards>
Add F2F Logistics Discussion
Resolution: minutes of 2008-06-24 approved w/o
Action Items
Action: id=2008-04-28-1 status=pending Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html
Action: id=2008-06-03-3 status=pending Simon Nash and Anish Karmarkar to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the lines
of the F2F discussion so that profitable discussion may continue this meeting.
Action: id=2008-06-03-4 status=pending Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification test to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24
Action: id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
Action: id=2008-06-03-7 status=done ref Assembly-16 Edwards to look into the question of aliases
Action: id=2008-06-03-8 status=pending ref Assembly-16 Nash to look into how binding uris may be handled
Action: id=2008-06-03-9 status=pending Mike Edwards to prepare a proposal for addressing Assembly-8 based on some of the discussions
at the F2F
Action: id=2008-06-03-11 status=pending Mike Edwards - Question of handling changes of property values (including multi-values) -
should be part of the discussion of Issue 41
Action: id=2008-06-03-13 status=done Nash/Edwards prepare proposal text for Assembly-56
Action: id=2008-06-17-1 status=done Bryan Aupperle to develop a re-worked proposal for the resolution of Assembly-53 based on the
discussions of 2008-06-17
Problems that Editors found with resolved issues
<anish>
email at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00001.html
<anish>
new CD 01 rev 1 is at http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/28700/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd01-rev1.doc
Karmarkar:
Editors applied pending issues to CD-01 to create CD-01 rev 1
... Issues list and spec needs to be updated to reflect the incorporation of all issues including issue 69
... Some of the issues could not be resolved to the resolved state since some could not be applied and others were unclear
Issue 1 a incorporated, b dropped
Issue 14 changes seem to only apply to component properties. applied changes to component and not composite properties and
component type properties
Issue 17 JIRA says resolved but no minute is referenced
Issue 18 Has a dependency on Issue 12, 12 is closed but it never was applied to the spec
Issue 22 seems to be a duplicate of 35, 35 is closed but there is no resolution pointed to by JIRA
Issue 30 FYI - was not incorporated since we are waiting for the policy attachment resolution
Issue 45 FUI - Partially applied
Chairs thank Editors for their update
F2F Logistics - Sept 30-Oct 3 in Boston
<Mike Edwards>
Venue is likely to be http://www.commandantshouse.com/
<Mike Edwards>
Bob needs to know the number of attendees asap
<Mike Edwards>
We are also hoping to have a Wednesday night event such as a Boston Harbor dinner cruise
<Mike Edwards>
end of July for the end of the ballot
New Issues
Topic New Issue ASSEMBLY-70 Deployment, Redeployment - Granularity and Semantics http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-70
Chapman takes the chair role
Edwards describes his new issue
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Combellack New Issue Assembly-70 opened w/o
New Issue ASSEMBLY-71 Implementation.composite pseudo-schema incorrect http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-71
Aupperle describes his new issue
Resolution: m:Aupperle s:Mischkinsky New Issue Assembly-71 opened w/o
Existing Issues
Assembly-56 Need to clarify definition of Bidirectional Interfaces
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-56
<Mike Edwards>
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00007.html
<Mike Edwards>
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00009.html
<Mike Edwards>
Proposed text for the Assembly specification (CD-01), to be added after line 2333
In a bidirectional interface, the service interface can have more than one operation defined, and the callback interface can
also have more than one operation defined. A single invocation of an operation on the service interface can cause
zero, one or many invocations of any of the operations on the callback interface. For a given invocation of a service operation,
which operations are invoked on the callback interface, the number of operations invoked and their sequence are not described
by SCA. It is possible that this metadata about the bidirectional interface can be supplied through mechanisms outside SCA.
For example, it might be provided as a written description attached to the callback interface.
<Simon Nash>
In a bidirectional interface, the service interface can have more than one operation defined, and the callback interface can
also have more than one operation defined.
A single invocation of an operation on the service interface can cause
zero, one or many invocations of any of the operations on the callback interface
<scn>, and a single invocation of an operation on the callback interface can result from
one or many invocations of any of the operations on the service interface</scn>.
For a given invocation of a service operation,
which operations are invoked on the callback interface, the number of operations invoked and their sequence are not described
by SCA. It is possible that this metadata about the bidirectional interface can be supplied through mechanisms outside SCA.
For example, it might be provided as a written description attached to the callback interface.
<Martin C>
For a given invocation of a service operation,
which operations are invoked on the callback interface, the number of operations invoked, how they are correlated, and their
sequence are not described
by SCA.
Motion: m:Nash s:Edwards In a bidirectional interface, the service interface can have more than one operation defined, and the callback
interface can
also have more than one operation defined.
A single invocation of an operation on the service interface can cause
zero, one or many invocations of any of the operations on the callback interface , and a single invocation of an operation
on the callback interface can result from
one or many invocations of any of the operations on the service interface.
For a given invocation of a service operation,
which operations are invoked on the callback interface, the number of operations invoked, how they are correlated, and their
sequence are not described
by SCA.
It is possible that this metadata about the bidirectional interface can be supplied through mechanisms outside SCA.
For example, it might be provided as a written description attached to the callback interface.
Consideration deferred due to press of time
AOB
Straggler Roll
Adjourned
[End of Minutes]
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