Raw Text Meeting Minutes - TC meeting of 17th July 2009

AGENDA:

- Roll Call 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j

- Appointment of scribe. List attached
below 

- Agenda bashing 

- Approval of minutes for 13th July
2009 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33411/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-07-13.doc

0. Administration 

- Issue Status: Open: 22 

- SCA-J Public Review 

Started: 8th June 2009 

Ends: 7th August 2009 

1. Review action items: 

Action Items that I believe are done:

Action Items that I believe are still
to be done: 

2008-11-11-22: Mark to draw up some
wording for Direction 1 (as discussed at the November F2F) for JAVA-62

2008-11-11-23: Mark (and others prepared
to help) to investigate the WorkManager JEE spec and determine its applicability
to SCA for JAVA-62 

2009-05-11-01: Editors: remove extra
space on line 767 of CD01 (PDF) 

2009-06-19-01: Mike E to prepare a detailed
proposal for Issue 149 

2009-07-06-01: Dave B to raise to liaison
(so that other C&Is can consider and possibly assembly) that non-XML
based C&Is should state how the conversion of property values happens

2009-07-13-01: Mike E to produce text
for JAVA-167 

2009-07-13-02: Ram to write up proposal
in spec with change tracking on for JAVA-150 

2009-07-13-03: Anish to create a proposal
for the list of annotations which make sense for JAVA-166 

2. New Issues 

None 

3. Open Issues 

a. JAVA-58: SCA Spring C&I Specification
does not have a normative definition of how to calculate the ComponentType
of a Spring Application context 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-58

Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00027.html

PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33357/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58e.pdf

MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33358/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58e.doc

b. JAVA-59: SCA Spring C & I specification
does not state what happens when a Bean exposed as a service implements
mutliple interfaces 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-59

Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00041.html

4. Issues waiting for updated proposals

a. JAVA-92: Spring C&I spec needs
to define how effective CT is calculated 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-92

Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200905/msg00102.html

Waiting for JAVA-58 to be resolved.

b. JAVA-149: SCA Spring C & I specification
need to specify the limitations of implicit references 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-149

Proposal in Jira 

Waiting for updated proposal 

c. JAVA-114: Spring CI runtime behaviour
when annotation rules are violated 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-114

Proposal in Jira 

Blocked by JAVA-166 

d. JAVA-150: SCA Spring C & I specification
need to mention how SCA runtime should load multiple application context
files. 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-150

Proposal in Jira 

Waiting for full proposal (Ram Action
Item) 

e. JAVA-166: Spring C&I does not
say anything about SCA annotations 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-166

Waiting for list of Annotations (Anish
Action Item) 

f. JAVA-167: SCA Spring C & I specification
should make type attribute as optional for element 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-167

Outline proposal in Jira 

Waiting for full proposal (Mike E Action
Item) 

5. Issues with no proposals 

a. JAVA-163: Spring C&I sca-spring:reference
element has a default attribute which is unexplained 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-163

No proposal 

b. JAVA-107: RFC2119 Language is needed
for the EJB Binding Specification 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-107

No proposal 

c. JAVA-106: RFC2119 Language is needed
for Spring C&I Specification 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-106

No proposal 

d. JAVA-63: SCA Spring C & I specification
does not state whether Constructor Injection should be supported 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-63

No proposal 

6. AOB 

a. Straggler roll call

Item 0 Agenda Bashing

No changes

Item 0 Administrivia

Public Review is in progress

Ends Aug 7

Item 1 Minutes from Previous Meeting

Minutes from 13th July are accepted
without change

Item 2 Action Items.

2008-11-11-22: Mark to draw up some
wording for Direction 1 (as discussed at the November F2F) for JAVA-62

2008-11-11-23: Mark (and others prepared
to help) to investigate the WorkManager JEE spec and determine its applicability
to SCA for JAVA-62 

2009-05-11-01: Editors: remove extra
space on line 767 of CD01 (PDF) 

2009-06-19-01: Mike E to prepare a detailed
proposal for Issue 149 

2009-07-06-01: Dave B to raise to liaison
(so that other C&Is can consider and possibly assembly) that non-XML
based C&Is should state how the conversion of property values happens

2009-07-13-01: Mike E to produce text
for JAVA-167 

2009-07-13-02: Ram to write up proposal
in spec with change tracking on for JAVA-150 

2009-07-13-03: Anish to create a proposal
for the list of annotations which make sense for JAVA-166

All remain outstanding

Item 3 Open Issues

JAVA-58: SCA Spring C&I Specification
does not have a normative definition of how to calculate the ComponentType
of a Spring Application context 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-58

Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00027.html

PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33357/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58e.pdf

MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/33358/sca-springci-draft-20070926_Issue58e.doc

anonymous morphed into anish

Mike describes the proposal

Anish: Could you add an example.

Mike: Happy to do this, but I'd like
to do that outside the resolution of this issue

Dave: Give Mike an action item to create
an example

ACTION 20090717-01: Mike to create an
example of the componentType introspection

Mike moves to resolve Issue 58 using
the proposal in the email  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00027.html

Bryan seconds

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 58 is resolved.

JAVA 98 Spring C&I spec needs to
define how effective CT is calculated

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-92

anish: we should say that sides files
are not used in effective CT

anish: a similar issue was filed in
BPEL

anish: this is what mike's proposal
in BPEL says:"The SCA WS-BPEL Client and Implementation Specification
does not support the use of component type side files (as described in
the SCA Assembly Model specification [SCA-Assembly]).  The component
type of a WS-BPEL process used an an implementation is determined completely
by introspection of the process."

Mike moves to resolve Issue 92 by adding
the following text at the end of Section 3, as defined in the resolution
of Issue 58:

"The Spring Component Implementation
type does not support the use of Component Type side files, as defined
in the SCA Assembly Model specification [SCA-ASSEMBLY], so that the effective
componentType of a Spring Application Context is determined completely
by introspection of the Spring Application Context"

Bryan seconds

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 92 is resolved with the proposal
text above.

JAVA-59: SCA Spring C & I specification
does not state what happens when a Bean exposed as a service implements
multiple interfaces 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-59

Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00041.html

Mike presents the proposal in the email
above

Mike moves to resolve Issue 59 using
the proposal in the email http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00041.html

Bryan seconds

Anish queries the comment about Issue
167 in the email

Mike indicates that there is a text
change required from issue 167

Motion is accepted unanimously

Issue 59 is resolved using the proposal
in the email

<Discussion of possibilities for
resolving Issue 166>

Thinking at the moment is in the direction
of disallowing the SCA annotations in Spring beans

Yours,  Mike.

Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.

Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.

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