Raw Minutes for TC Call of 14th August 2009

Folks,

Here are the raw minutes:

Mark Combellack: - Roll Call

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j

- Appointment of scribe. List attached
below

- Agenda bashing

- Approval of minutes for 10th August
2009

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33715/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-08-10.doc

0. Administration 

- Issue Status: Open: 18

- SCA-J Public Review

    Started: 8th June 2009

    Ended    7th
August 2009

1. Review action items:

Action Items that I believe are done:

Action Items that I believe are still
to be done:

2008-11-11-22: Mark to draw up some
wording for Direction 1 (as discussed at the November F2F) for JAVA-62

2008-11-11-23: Mark (and others prepared
to help) to investigate the WorkManager JEE spec and determine its applicability
to SCA for JAVA-62

2009-05-11-01: Editors: remove extra
space on line 767 of CD01 (PDF)

2009-06-19-01: Mike E to prepare a detailed
proposal for Issue 149

2009-07-06-01: Dave B to raise to liaison
(so that other C&Is can consider and possibly assembly) that non-XML
based C&Is should state how the conversion of property values happens

2009-07-13-01: Mike E to produce text
for JAVA-167

2009-07-13-03: Anish to create a proposal
for the list of annotations which make sense for JAVA-166

2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an example
of the componentType introspection (JAVA-5

2009-07-27-01: Chairs to find potential
replacement time for one or both of the cancelled calls.

2009-07-27-02: Mike E to prepare set
of slides for Issue 127

2. New Issues

None

3. Open Issues

a. JAVA-107: RFC2119 Language is needed
for the EJB Binding Specification

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-107

Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00033.html

PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33762/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-04%20issue107_v5.pdf

MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33761/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-04%20issue107_v5.doc

b. JAVA-150: SCA Spring C & I specification
need to mention how SCA runtime should load multiple application context
files.

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-150

Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00083.html

4. Issues waiting for updated proposals

a. JAVA-149: SCA Spring C & I specification
need to specify the limitations of implicit references

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-149

Proposal in Jira

Waiting for updated proposal

b. JAVA-114: Spring CI runtime behaviour
when annotation rules are violated

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-114

Proposal in Jira

Blocked by JAVA-166

c. JAVA-166: Spring C&I does not
say anything about SCA annotations

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-166

Waiting for list of Annotations (Anish
Action Item)

d. JAVA-167: SCA Spring C & I specification
should make type attribute as optional for <sca:service/> element

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-167

Outline proposal in Jira

Waiting for full proposal (Mike E Action
Item)

e. JAVA-173: SCA Spring C & I specification
should mention how implicit services should be determined for special bean
definitions

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-173

Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00006.html

Waiting for updated proposal (Ram)

f. JAVA-175: SCA Spring C & I specification
should use "id" of the bean to uniquely identify a bean instead
of its name

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-175

Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00007.html

Waiting for updated proposal (Ram)

5. Issues with no proposals

a. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the
SCA JEE specification

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174

6. AOB

a. Straggler roll call

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Rotating scribe list:

Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (12)

Graham Charters IBM (5)

Mike Edwards IBM (12)

Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (13)

Yang Lei IBM (10)

Simon Nash Individual (10)

Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (12)

Bryan Aupperle IBM (15)

 

Agenda Bashing

No changes

Approval of Minutes

Minutes for August 10th 2009

Minutes approved without change

Administrivia

18 open issues

Public Review completed on 7th August

Item 1 Action Items

2009-06-19-01: Mike E to prepare a detailed
proposal for Issue 149

- now Done

Item 2 New Issues

None

Item 3 Existing Issues

JAVA-107: RFC2119 Language is needed
for the EJB Binding Specification

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-107

Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200908/msg00033.html

PDF: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33762/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-04%20issue107_v5.pdf

MS Word: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33761/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-04%20issue107_v5.doc

Dave presents his proposal, linked above

- new 3rd bullet in section 3.1, dealing
with <service> side

- 4th bullet adjusted

- all mentions of "service"
and "reference" are qualified with "SCA" or "EJB"
depending on which type is being discussed

Bryan - in Section 8.2, I though we
decided that the conformance clauses don't get numbered

Dave: I could not recall whether we
decided to remove the numbers

Martin - I think that is what we agreed
- ie no numbers

Mike: I'm pretty happy with the spec
now, especially all the work on Section 3

anish: didn't we talk about moving 80004
to a different section?

Dave: Moves to resolve Issue 107 with
the proposal in http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33762/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-04%20issue107_v5.pdf
except for - unhighlight and unlabel the statement in Section 8.1 and the
first two statements in section 8.2 (leaving the statement [BSB80004])

Bryan seconds

<Discussion of the "right"
place for [BSB80004], comparing with other SCA specification documents>

Dave moves to amend the motion to also
move [BSB80004] to be immediately [BSB20008] and renumber it to [BSB20009]
and replace the word "implementation" with "SCA runtime"

Anish seconds

Motion passes unanimously - amendment
is carried

anish btw what is the difference between
an "implementation" and an "SCA Runtime"

Amended main motion passes unanimously

anish i understand that one is a target
of keywords, but aren't they the same?

resolve Issue 107 with the proposal
in http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/33762/sca-ejbbinding-1.1-spec-wd-04%20issue107_v5.pdf
except for - unhighlight and unlabel the statement in Section 8.1 and the
first two statements in section 8.2 and move [BSB80004] to be immediately
after [BSB20008] and renumber it to [BSB20009] and replace the word "implementation"
with "SCA runtime"

"implementation" can get confused
with <implementation.xxx/>

JAVA-150: SCA Spring C & I specification
need to mention how SCA runtime should load multiple application context
files.

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-150

Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200907/msg00083.html

sca-springci-draft-Issue150.doc - contains
2 alternatives

Ram outlines the 2 alternatives

<Discussion of what the alternatives
mean>

Mark Combellack: Approx 5 minutes left
of call time

anish: http://static.springsource.org/osgi/docs/1.0.x/reference/html/app-deploy.html

Mark Combellack: Meeting adjourned

COB

Yours,  Mike.

Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO.

Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC.

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