Title: Re: [soa-rm-ra] random question
I
agree Duane. I think it comes down to whether or not data is the central focus
of what the service does. The type of data service mentioned below would
encompass data management services as well as data access services (i.e.
providing access to one or more data sources, and possibly integrating the data
via federated queries). So perhaps a better name would be "data-centric
services", or "data services" as the umbrella category with subcategories of
"data management services" and "data access services".
Joe
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From: Duane Nickull [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 12:26 PM
To: Chiusano
Joseph; Ken Laskey
Cc: Michael Stiefel;
Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] random
question
Is there any service that does not use
data?
D
On 8/24/06 6:29 AM, "Chiusano Joseph"
<> wrote:
Not types of
service providers; service providers that provide certain types of services
(e.g. data service provider = service provider of data
services).
Joe
Joseph Chiusano
Associate
Booz Allen
Hamilton
700 13th St.
NW, Suite 1100
Washington, DC 20005
O: 202-508-6514
C: 202-251-0731
Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com
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From: Ken
Laskey [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 8:49 AM
To: Chiusano
Joseph
Cc: Michael Stiefel;
Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] random
question
Joe,
But
I'm not sure "types" of service providers is relevant. I look at a
service description, decide if the real world effects are what I want (and
whether the rest of the execution context stuff can be aligned), and then I
proceed with the interaction. If I ask for information, I don't know
(unless I have a business reason for this to be part of my rationale for which
service to use) if it is "data" from a database, results from a simulation, or
Mechanical Turk.
Ken
On Aug 24, 2006, at 6:33 AM, Chiusano
Joseph wrote:
I
think it's a question of service providers, but more specifically of
what *types* of services. So there can be data service providers,
perhaps process service providers (e.g. BPEL-based processes), and
perhaps even application service providers in a different sense than
the traditional ASP (perhaps service-based
applications).
Joe
From: Ken Laskey [mailto:]
Sent:
Wed 8/23/2006 10:19 PM
To: Michael Stiefel
Cc:
Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra]
random question
Michael,
My
question is whether there are providers in the SOA sense for something
other than services. For example, one could say there are data
providers but wouldn't they have their data sources accessed using
services? Does that apply to all providing
stakeholders?
Ken
On
Aug 23, 2006, at 6:58 PM, Michael Stiefel
wrote:
Aren't users of the services
stakeholders?
Aren't manufacturers of equipment
stakeholders?
Is the government that
collects a tax or regulates a
stakeholder?
Aren't the "victims" we discussed
at the F2F stakeholders as
well?
Michael
At
05:57 PM 8/23/2006, Ken Laskey wrote:
Can we have stakeholders who are
providers or maintainers of something other than services?
Or, do we assume by the nature of SOA that if you provide
something other than a service, that something is a capability
that must have a service access, so you always end up a service
provider?
Ken
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