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Sazi,
My
apologies for not being more clear. This is a transcript of just the IRC
session, not the minutes of the meeting. I will try to get the
minutes cleaned up and posted out asap.
Thx,
Rand
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From: Diane Jordan
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Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 9:40
PM
To: Sazi Temel
Cc: 'Eckenfels. Bernd'; Rand Anderson;
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Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Irc
Notes
This is not the
official attendance. I've yet to update and distribute that - hopefully
tomorrow.
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Sazi Temel
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05/21/2003 08:00 PM
To:
Rand Anderson <>
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<>, "'Eckenfels. Bernd'"
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Subject:
RE: [wsbpel] Irc Notes
If this is an official list of people who participated the conf
call today, please correct the list. I joined to conf call at about 11:10am,
quit at about 12:30pm and re-joined at 1pm. I am (all EST) not able to use
IRC, only by phone. Thanks.
Sazi Temel
At 04:58 PM 5/21/2003
-0400, Rand Anderson wrote:
All,
I think I was able to capture a complete transcript of the session
- see attached.
The only edits I made were to snip activity prior to meeting start
and after meeting adjourn.
This is a DOC file - I would have posted as simple
text but the emoticons get dropped. If another format is preferred, let me
know.
Thanks again, Bernd, for spearheading this service.
HTH,
Rand
-----Original
Message-----
From: Eckenfels. Bernd [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 2:25 PM
To:
Subject: [wsbpel] Irc Notes
Hello everybody,
attached you find a
(incomplete) log file of the chat this morning. I have (hopefully) removed all
IP-Addresses, so no security problem should be associated with sending this
around.
Some
points/ideas about the IRC thing:
- the server is open for you to try, may experience some
downtimes, while I work on it. I might add a direct IRC access with clients,
cause this is more efficient for those of you who already use irc
clients
- Rand
suggested the live script, and I think this is a good idea, for phone and f2f
meetings:
o
setting up a channel where observers can join, but only the secretary and
chair can write
(this is
especially good for the f2f meeting to announce new agenda points for
people waiting to dial in)
- Danny suggested to accept "raise hands" for the
speaker queue in addition to the phone by irc
(this is good since it minimizes the
interruption, and the speaker queue manager can easily read full names. No
disadvantage for non-irc speakers, they can use the traditional phone way,
which works anyway. SQ manger is semi trusted to present the state of the
queue in regular intervals.)
- Background discussions (in an open un-moderated
channel)
(this is
good for exchanging links, but it is also bad because it generates some
background discussions, might not be a good thing for formal
meetings)
<<irclog.txt>>
Some open points I discovered:
- some people had problems with access,
I need more input
-
overview on who is who is a bit missing if you are not experienced with the
/whois function, I can fix that (with a modification or other
software)
-
registration would be good, because the service may be subject to deny of
service (malicious or by accident like a big cut+paste)
(this is actually the
reason why I did not open direct irc client access, because I was not
confident of "good" configuration)
If irc gets more official than that (besides accepting
hand-raising and producing transcripts) the functionality for ad-hoc voting
and even speaker queue can be added, but I do not propose to go this way, till
we all are more comfortable with the other two points I have
proposed.
Later
this week I send a short documentation (and might even switch the web
front-end) to the list.
For the meeting I will set up a "open" channel #bpel-discuss, an
moderated #bpel-transcript (and provide some introductions on how to use
them).
Greetings
Bernd
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