Re: [wsbpel] Irc Notes

Title: Irc Notes

Could you correct the list of attendees to include 
myself (Mark Little) and Stuart Wheater? We joined just after Sazi.

 

Mark.

  
----- Original Message ----- 

  
From: 
  Rand 
  Anderson 

  
To: '' 
  

  
Cc: 'Eckenfels. Bernd' 

  
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 9:58 
  PM

  
Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Irc Notes

  

  

  
All,

  
I think I was able to 
  capture a complete transcript of the session - see attached.

  
 

  
The only edits I made 
  were to snip activity prior to meeting start and after meeting 
  adjourn.

  
This is a DOC file - 
  I would have posted as simple text but the emoticons get dropped. If another 
  format is preferred, let me know.

  
 

  
Thanks again, Bernd, 
  for spearheading this service.

  
 

  
HTH,

  
Rand

  
 

  
-----Original 
  Message-----
From: Eckenfels. 
  Bernd [mailto:] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 2:25 
  PM
To: 
  
Subject: [wsbpel] Irc 
  Notes

  
 

  
Hello everybody, 

  
attached you find a (incomplete) 
  log file of the chat this morning. I have (hopefully) removed all 
  IP-Addresses, so no security problem should be associated with sending this 
  around.

  
Some points/ideas about the IRC 
  thing: 

  
- the server is open for you to 
  try, may experience some downtimes, while I work on it. I might add a direct 
  IRC access with clients, cause this is more efficient for those of you who 
  already use irc clients

  
- Rand suggested the live script, 
  and I think this is a good idea, for phone and f2f meetings: 

  
  o setting up a channel 
  where observers can join, but only the secretary and chair can 
  write 

  
 

  
(this is especially good for the 
  f2f meeting to announce new agenda points for    people waiting 
  to dial in) 

  
- Danny suggested to accept "raise 
  hands" for the speaker queue in addition to the phone by irc 

  
(this is good since it minimizes 
  the interruption, and the speaker queue manager can easily read full names. No 
  disadvantage for non-irc speakers, they can use the traditional phone way, 
  which works anyway. SQ manger is semi trusted to present the state of the 
  queue in regular intervals.)

  
- Background discussions (in an 
  open un-moderated channel) 

  
(this is good for exchanging 
  links, but it is also bad because it generates some background discussions, 
  might not be a good thing for formal meetings)

  
 

  
<<irclog.txt>> 
  

  
Some open points I 
  discovered: 

  
- some people had problems with 
  access, I need more input 
- overview on who is who is a bit 
  missing if you are not experienced with the /whois function, I can fix that 
  (with a modification or other software)

  
- registration would be good, 
  because the service may be subject to deny of service (malicious or by 
  accident like a big cut+paste)

  
  (this is actually the 
  reason why I did not open direct irc client access, because I was not 
  confident of "good" configuration)

  
If irc gets more official than 
  that (besides accepting hand-raising and producing transcripts) the 
  functionality for ad-hoc voting and even speaker queue can be added, but I do 
  not propose to go this way, till we all are more comfortable with the other 
  two points I have proposed.

  
 

  
Later this week I send a short 
  documentation (and might even switch the web front-end) to the 
  list. 

  
For the meeting I will set up a 
  "open" channel #bpel-discuss, an moderated #bpel-transcript (and provide some 
  introductions on how to use them).

  
Greetings 
Bernd 

  

  

  

  

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