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Re: [xliff] csprod01 comment 001, improved Format Style Module Processing Requirements

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Dr. David Filip <>
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2013-07-02T12:15:08+00:00
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Re: [xliff] csprod01 comment 001, improved Format Style Module Processing Requirements
Hi Bryan,

I do not think that we actually have to prescribe a validation method. I just think that we should give a normative guidance how to create a working snippet and obviously we should not reinvent the wheel here..

I see that the browser criterion is probably the most practical, still we should not give such a sloppy criterion in a normative PR.

I think a note nearby could say that.

I was doing some research looking for a suitable normtaive W3C reference that we could use.

i believe we should say something along the lines that parsing of the snippet following this fragment parsing algorithm 

http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/syntax.html#parsing-html-fragments

should produce a valid DOM tree

http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/infrastructure.html#tree-order

http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/infrastructure.html#dom-node-parentnode

So there is ultimately a DOMCORE normative refernce but the handling is given by the HTML5 candidate recommendation.

IMHO, if the snippet is parsed as advised above, the result even should validate..

I hope this helps

dF

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On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Schnabel, Bryan S <> wrote:

Hi All,

 

Regarding comment 001, Format Style Module Processing Requirements, I see in the Actions (to be) Taken cell it says “Bryan to add the PR with reference to HTML standard object model.”

 

I remember we discussed this, but my memory is that we could not determine an appropriate “standard object model.”

 

And I’m still at a loss to solve this.

 

If we are talking about the HTML DOM, I think that’s very much overkill. And as we said before, and XML validation against an HTML DTD is also overkill. Even the very handy W3C HTML validator (http://validator.w3.org/
 ) fails HTML blurbs that really should pass. For example, if the Format Style Module markup resulted in the following just-in-time HTML snip, it would render nicely in a standard HTML browser (but fail in the validator):

 

 

<html>

<h1>Hello</h1>

<p>World</p>

</html>

 

In fact the language in the initial comment was:

 

“new Processing Requirement: The fs and subFs MUST be configured in such a way that the resulting HTML snippet is valid, such that it can be rendered by a standard HTML browser”

 

Please let me know if you have advice on what HTML standard object model I should refer to. Or, let me know if you think the language from the initial comment will suffice.

 

Thanks,

 

Bryan
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