An interesting discussion. This could get very
complex if we are not careful. For example would the same approach about
sectoral aspects be implemented in smaller governments? I can understand
doing it in a large country with many Gov departments etc but would you take
the same approach in a third world country with limited finances and a
smaller Gov structure, there it might not be cost effective to decompose to the
same level?
I would suggest we get the top layer sorted first as Chris says and
then decide how to decompose that if that’s what is believed to be
necessary. Clearly something for early discussion on our next TC meeting.
Views from others on this would be appreciated.
Regards
John
Borras
Chair
OASIS TGF Technical Committee
m.
+(0)44 7976 157745
Skype:
gov3john
From: Chris Parker
[mailto:]
Sent: 24 October 2010 17:58
To: Colin Wallis; John Borras; tgf @lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [tgf] RE: TGF DELIVERABLES
Colin
These
are good points, and we'll need to find the right balance. New Zealand's
approach is by no means unique: most government's seek to address some issues
at a whole-of-government level, yet also have active cluster/sector based
approaches.
I'll
leave it to John to take a view on what this means in terms of the scoping
document (which, by the way John I thought was excellent!). But on the
substance of how to address the issue, my thinking is as follows:
a)
Government is just too big a business to join up through any centralised,
top-down mechanism
b)
It therefore follows that it makes absoute sense to encourage joining-up at a
cluster/sector level, where organisations involved in a common business area
(say the criminial juistice system) are best placed to work out how to do this
c) However,
it is vital then to make sure that a "joined-up cluster" doesn't
just become another silo (albeit a bigger one)
d)
Therefore, the focus at whole-of-government level should be on putting in
place the minimum strategic framework needed to ensure that bottom-up, sectoral
initiatives work together as an interoperable whole.
In
terms of the CS Transform model that we have put on the table as a contribution
to the TGF, our approach to this "minimum whole-of-government
framework" is to focus on two main areas:
-
First, the common building blocks that cut across all sectoral/cluster
initiatives, and which therefore bring significant efficiency benefits from a
whole-of-government approach (typically, these will be the common data sets
like identity, address and so on, and the common core applications like
authentication, payments, notifications etc)
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Second, ensuring that the "voice of the customer" is represented at a
whole-of-government level, by introducing a virtual,
citizen-centric business layer which sits across and within the sectoral
approach. (In order, for example, to ensure that the needs of a customer
group such as parents - which cut across education, health, social care,
tax and benefit sectors and more - are understood and championed in a holistic
way.)
Clearly
the group as a whole will need to take its own view on precisely what issues
should be addressed at a whole-of-government level, and which left to a
sectoral/cluster approach. But in terms of the balance between the two,
my strong feeling is that we should - at least at first! - focus the
Transformational Government Framework at the whole-of-government
level. Later on, once the TGF is properly established, we might look at
supplementing this with best practice frameworks for specific business areas
(education, health, criminal justice etc), but I think this would be too much
to bite off for the TC at first.
Grateful
for views from John and others.
Chris
Parker
Managing
Partner, CS Transform Ltd, +44 7951 754 060
From: Colin Wallis
[mailto:]
Sent: 24 October 2010 00:37
To: John Borras; tgf @lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [tgf] RE: TGF DELIVERABLES
Thanks John
That's an excellent start.
There are two things that spring to mind here at yet another airport, but they
are related:
1) I don't know about other governments but we have a mix of
'all-of-government' (AoG) policy and community/cluster/sector policy (such as
Health, Education etc). Ideally the sector work builds off the AoG work,
but sometimes that's hard to see!, and I recall a couple of instances where it
has actually run counter to AoG policy!:-). So while the attached doc proposes
to pull whatever policy exists in government today, they will not all line up
in terms of depth, scope, etc. We will have to be very careful not to
confuse the readers at this juncture.
2) Related to 1) above we will need to explain the relationship between
all-of-government policy and community/cluster/sector-based policy. This
could almost become a clarifying point regarding the scope.
Cheers
Colin
From:
To: ;
Subject: TGF DELIVERABLES
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:37:14 +0100
As
mentioned on our call yesterday, please find attached my draft document which
attempts to explain in greater detail the list of deliverables as set out in
the TC Charter. It’s very important that we get a common
understanding of the deliverables from the outset so please take some time to
review this document and let me have any comments or alternative suggestions
within the next couple of weeks if possible.
I
would see this document as being an important input to the workshop in DC on 9
Dec and then for us to use it in our TC meeting on 10th to determine
our work programme.
Regards
John Borras
Chair OASIS
TGF Technical Committee
m. +(0)44
7976 157745
Skype:
gov3john
