XLIFF TC meeting minutes, July 1, 2014

Hi all, please find pasted and attached the meeting minutes from today's meeting.

*I am looking for a second.*

These will become the meeting minutes of record

1) if seconded today

2) unless material objections are raised by Friday, July 4, EOD PDT DST.

I Administration 

BS:
Roll call

Yves, Asanka, David W., David F., Felix, Fredrik,
Joachim, Lucia, Tom, Bryan S, Soroush, Helena. (11 out of 13 voters, meeting
has quorum)

BS:
Welcome to Felix Sasaki. We are very happy to have him with us. 

  B. Approved (by clearing CFD) meeting minutes, 20 May 2014

    
OASIS link https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201405/msg00015.html

     markmail thread link http://markmail.org/thread/5pzggzfhzjawckjo

BS:
XLIFF activity will reduce its activity during summer to two to one meeting and
they will take place on the first Tuesday of each month. In September we will
decide if we continue with that rhythm or we go back to the two meetings per
month.  Any thoughts on that?

Df:
I think we should go back to the twice a month after September.

 

II XLIFF 2.0

BS:
The new items have an asterisk in the agenda.

  A. 60-day Public Review for XLIFF Version 2.0
Candidate OASIS Standard - ends July 5th https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201405/msg00000.html

BS:None of the comments required substantial changes, so we can continue with
the following steps.

 BS[goes
through the next steps, see below:]   

*
Next steps:

https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#OASISstandard

3.4.2 Public Review of a Candidate OASIS Standard

“Upon completion of the public review, the Chair must notify the TC
Administrator of the results.”

(Note
from the chair: the language of this section is unchanged except for the
(numbers) I added for our discussion)

(1)
If comments were received and only Non-Material Changes are to be made to the
Candidate OASIS Standard,

the editor(s) will prepare a revised Candidate OASIS Standard.

Changes may only be made to address the comments.

(2) The TC must provide an acceptable summary that is clear and comprehensible
of the changes made

and a statement that the TC judges the changes to be Non-Material to TC
Administration

(3) and request a Special Majority Vote to proceed with the membership vote.

(4) TC Administration shall hold the Special Majority Vote and announce it to
the OASIS membership

and optionally on other public mail lists along with the summary of changes and
the TC's statement.

(5) If the Special Majority Vote passes, the TC Administrator must start the
ballot for OASIS Standard approval within 7 days of notification.

 

DF:
There are four editorial clarifications and one non-action.

I
move that the TC instruct the Officers to request that OASIS TC Admin hold a
Special Majority Vote as soon as possible after the public review period for
XLIFF Version 2.0 COS01 closes on 05 July 2014 to approve Working Draft 05 and
all related artifacts contained in
http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/xliff/trunk/xliff-20/xliff-20.zip?op=dl&rev=536&isdir=0
as Candidate OASIS Standard 02 and present this Candidate OASIS Standard to the
membership for an OASIS Standard vote in accordance with the procedures
documented in 3.4.2 Public Review of a Candidate OASIS Standard in the OASIS TC
Process. By passing this motion, the TC affirms that (a) Working Draft 05
contains changes from Candidate OASIS Standard 01
(http://docs.oasis-open.org/xliff/xliff-core/v2.0/cos01/xliff-core-v2.0-cos01.html);
(b) that the changes made are documented in
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF%202.0%20Public%20Review%20submitted%20comments%20tracker;
(c) that these changes are Non-Material; and (d) that these changes are made
ONLY to address the comments received during the public review period as
documented in
https://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF%202.0%20Public%20Review%20submitted%20comments%20tracker
(resolutions to comments 300-304).

The
current pdf snapshot of the tracker is here: http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/xliff/trunk/COS01_CommentsDisposal/XLIFF%202.0%20Public%20Review%20...ts%20tracker%20-%20XLIFF%20Wiki.pdf?op=dl&rev=537&isdir=0

Fredrik:
I second

Roll
call:

Yes:
Helena, Tom, Lucía, Fredrik, DavidF, Yves, Bryan, Joachim, DavidW, Asanka,
Soroush.

No:
N/A

Abstain:
N/A

DF:
The ballot passes unanimously (11 out of 11 present voters).

 

Media type
registration template
- csd01 -> csd02/csprd01 https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201405/msg00005.html

* 30-day Public Review for Media Type Registration Template for #XLIFF Version
2.0 - ends July 17th

     https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201406/msg00056.html

BS:
We have not received any comments so far.

 

TC Charter

    
Clarification https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201405/msg00004.html

 * Ballot passed: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ballot.php?id=2616

 * “An issue has come up in your charter clarification”

     Issue: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201406/msg00003.html

     Must request special majority ballot https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201406/msg00012.html

DF:
the structural requirements for a charter had changed since the TC last
clarified it back in 2007 or so and Chet proposed how to distribute our
approved content throughout the now required sections. I suggested some minor
changes to his proposal. Changes can be tracked on the svn [DF goes through the changes that are highlighted on
the following document]:
http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/xliff/trunk/XLIFF2.0Charter/XLIFF%20TC%20Charter%20Clarification_Restructured_ToBeAproved.docx?op=dl&rev=0&isdir=0

Fredrik:
I think the changes make sense and they are improvements.

DF: I move to approve the TC
Officers requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Ballot to
approve the charter clarification contained here: 

http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/xliff/trunk/XLIFF2.0Charter/XLIFF%20TC%20Charter%20Clarification_Restructured_ToBeAproved.docx?op=dl&rev=0&isdir=0

 

Fredrik:
I second

Yes:
Helena, Tom, Fredrik, DavidF, Lucia, Yves, Bryan,
Asanka, DavidW, Joachim, Souroush.

No: N/A

Abstain: N/A

The motion passes unanimously (11 out of 11 present
voters).

 

Proposal for
Fragment Id Prefix registration 

      https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201405/msg00014.html

      https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201406/msg00014.html

BS:
Yves has submitted a proposal. No comments were received so far.

YS:
I tried to divide the proposal in two parts: defining the format for the
registration list, and outline a text that we can put in the registration. All
the things have been already discussed (at least partially) in the past months.

BS:
Any comments?

YS:
have at least two people read the proposal? Any issues seen?

BS:
I have not been seen any typo nor issues.

DF:
I have not seen any either. We might need to continue the work on the wiki.

YS:
that makes sense.

DF:
we can also store artefacts on the SVN. The SVN is public and we can publish
the links that are generated. The registration artifact should be on the SVN,
also sample files.

DF:
An action item for Yves should be to create the space on the wiki, and Bryan
can then publish it on the TC public page. We require the submissions through
the comment list.

YS:
I can write the wiki.

Fredrik:
if we have a non-public address might be better.

DF:
We need to use the comment lists because people who register to the list have
to accept the OASIS IPR Policy. 

BS:
Any more comments ?

Proposal on XLIFF 2.x cadence 

BS:
Kevin is not here today, this gets moved to the next meeting: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201406/msg00001.html

XLIFF 2.0 Tools report (open to
anyone who wants to comment on their tool(s))

BS:
Great work being done by Yves.

 

XLIFF OM and API
discussion moved to XLIFF User list

DF:
I have some issues subscribing to this mailing list, has anyone had the same
problem?

YS:
I have had some issues too, it can take a while, about 12 hours.

FS:
It worked for me.

DF:
Who is the owner? Bryan?

BS:
No, I am not. But I can resend you the emails.

DF:
I will ask Chet for help with this.

 

III Sub Committee
Report 

XLIFF Symposium and
F2F debrief

BS:
We received a very good energy from the symposium.

-Yves’
published a great article in Multilingual on XLIFF 2.0.

DF:
We had a successful Symposium, also financially. People in Dublin were
interested to have another meeting in Vancouver. We might have a mini symposium
(FEISGILTT) in Vancouver. There was a clear call also for an API, there are
already some discussions going on the user mailing lists. There were good
reports on the ITS2 progress for XLIFF 2.1 and also on advanced validation that
we should provide within 2.1. Felix demonstrated some of the advanced
standardized validation techniques, such as Schematron or NVDL. We have also received
input for some fixes in 2.1.

We
agreed to open new wiki for collecting and moving forward features. Bryan, are
you the gardener?

BS:
I wonder if we need to have the 2.0 items alive or if I could archive it

DF:
Could it be duplicated? 

BS:
Not a trivial, will look into it.

DF:
we should start working on the 2.1 if we are to adhere to the roadmap. That
means having reference implementation by November. There are already solid
reference implementations for ITS. We need some concentrated work on advanced
validation techniques. Felix and Soroush are already working on this. It would
be great if we can track this work on the wiki. The TC Administrator has
created the template for XLIFF 2.1 as requested, so we can start working on it,
no problem.

DF:
WRT membership ballot on OASIS standard, it is important that TC members talk
to their company’s primary representative to vote.

Df:
I will finish the minutes from the Symposium next week. In the meantime WIP
minutes are published: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201407/msg00003.html

BS:
Any questions?

DF:
Please remember to vote on the special majority ballots. It is important to be
able to point to unanimous TC decisions. 

Dr. David Filip

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