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Title: SCA-Assy - 2008-08-12

   
   
      
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         - DRAFT -
         SCA-Assembly TC
Teleconference
         
         12 AUG 2008
         Attendees
         
            Present
            fred carter, (AmberPoint)
            Mark Combellack, (Avaya, Inc.)
            Dale Moberg, (Axway Software*)
            Robert Freund, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
            Eric Wells, (Hitachi, Ltd.)
            Bryan Aupperle, (IBM)
            Michael Beisiegel, (IBM)
            David Booz, (IBM)
            Graham Charters, (IBM)
            Simon Holdsworth, (IBM)
            Simon Nash, (IBM)
            Jim Marino, (Individual)
            Jeff Estefan, (Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*)
            Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
            Rich Levinson, (Oracle Corporation)
            Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)
            Jeff Mischkinsky, (Oracle Corporation)
            Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG*)
            Plamen Pavlov, (SAP AG*)
            Peter Walker, (Sun Microsystems)
            Sabin Ielceanu, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
            Scott Vorthmann, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
            Chair
            Martin Chapman
            Scribe
            Bob Freund
            Agenda:
            
1. Opening 
Introductions 
Roll call 
Scribe confirmation 
Agenda bashing 
2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 5th August 
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/29022/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-08-05.pdf 
3. Action Items: 
2008-04-28-1: Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html 
2008-06-03-3: Simon Nash and Anish Karmarkar to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the lines of the F2F discussion
               so that profitable discussion may continue this meeting. 
2008-06-03-4: Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification test to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24 
2008-06-03-6: Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness 
2008-07-08-1: Simon Nash - Review spec for areas that might benefit from illustration by the addition of pseudo-schema 
2008-07-22-3: Karmarkar to send an E-mail with details of use case (re Issue 8 resolution) 
2008-07-22-4: Booz to rewrite 11.2.1 to consider Simon N's use case (re Issue 8 resolution) 
20080805-01: Owner=MikeE due=2008-08-12 Mike E to open discussion of ASSEMBLY-41 on E-mail list 
20080805-02: Mike Edwards: Material for Issue Assembly-16 to be worked into a full formal resolution. 
4. Assembly TC Schedule 
A proposed schedule can be found here: 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200808/msg00013.html 
Proposal to set a higher bar for raising new issues, from 15th September 2008: 
Proposed motion: 
"From September 16th 2008, to raise a new issue in the Assembly TC follows exactly the same process 
that is used for re-opening an issue, which is that it requires a 2/3 majority of all voting members to be accepted." 
4. New Issues 
ASSEMBLY-78 SCA Assembly requires an Annotation to indicate whether a forward operation in a bidirectional interface must
               carry a callback address 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-78 
5. Existing Issues 
ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8 
Latest discussion and proposal: 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00021.html 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00027.html 
ASSEMBLY-41 Conflicting domain-level deployments 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-41 
Proposed update to the Issue: 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00029.html 
Requires a writeup based on discussions at the F2F 
ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37 
Waiting for a write-up based on discussions at the F2F meeting 
ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16 
Proposal requires write-up of 2 separate action items from the F2F 
1) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00020.html 
ASSEMBLY-33 Long-Running Request-Response Operations 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33 
6. AOB 
Next meeting is on August 19th
            
         
      

      
      

         Contents
         
            Topics 
            
            [1] 
               Opening
            
            [2] 
               Action Items
            
            [3] 
               Assembly TC Schedule
            
            [4] 
               New Issues
            
            [5] 
               New Issue ASSEMBLY-78 SCA Assembly requires an Annotation to indicate whether a forward operation in a bidirectional interface
               must carry a callback address http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-78
            [6] 
               Pseudo-schema review
            
            [7] 
               Existing issues
            
            [8] 
               ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8
            [9] 
               ASSEMBLY-41 Conflicting domain-level deployments 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-41
            [10] 
               ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37
            [11] 
               ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16
            [12] 
               AOB
            
            Table of Resolutions
            Table of Action Items
         
      

      
      

         Action Items
         
            Old:
            2008-04-28-1: id=2008-04-28-1 status=pending Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html
            
            2008-06-03-3: id=2008-06-03-3 status=pending Simon Nash and Anish Karmarkar to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the lines
               of the F2F discussion so that profitable discussion may continue this meeting.
            
            2008-06-03-4: id=2008-06-03-4 status=pending Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification test to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24
            
            2008-06-03-6: id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
            
            2008-07-08-1: id=2008-07-08-1 status=done Simon Nash - Review spec for areas that might benefit from illustration by the addition of pseudo-schema
            
            2008-07-22-3: id=2008-07-22-3 status=pending Karmarkar to send an E-mail with details of use case (re Issue 8 resolution)
            
            2008-07-22-4: id=2008-07-22-4 status=pending Booz to rewrite 11.2.1 to consider Simon N's use case (re Issue 8 resolution)
            
            2008-08-05-1: id=2008-08-05-1 status=pending Owner=MikeE due=2008-08-12 Mike E to open discussion of ASSEMBLY-41 on E-mail list
            
            2008-08-05-2: id=2008-08-05-2 status=pending Mike Edwards: Material for Issue Assembly-16 to be worked into a full formal resolution.
            
            New:
            2008-08-12-1: chairs to coordinate milestones with the liaison committee
            
            2008-08-12-2: Nash to prepare a list of such location for use by the editors.
            
            2008-08-12-3: Edwards to incorporate the concepts included in the referenced emails for a concrete proposal to close Assembly-16
            
         
      

      
      

         Resolutions
         
            
2008-08-12-1: m:Nash s:Marino Close New Issue Assembly-78 as rejected
            

         
      

      
      

         Minutes
         

            
 Scribe: Bob Freund

         

         

            Opening
         

         

            
 

            
Roll - quorate with 17 of 25 voting members present

         

         

            
 

            
Agenda - agreed w/o

         

         

            Action Items
         

         
 Action: id=2008-04-28-1 status=pending Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html
         

         
 Action: id=2008-06-03-3 status=pending Simon Nash and Anish Karmarkar to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the lines
            of the F2F discussion so that profitable discussion may continue this meeting.
         

         
 Action: id=2008-06-03-4 status=pending Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification test to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24
         

         
 Action: id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
         

         
 Action: id=2008-07-08-1 status=done Simon Nash - Review spec for areas that might benefit from illustration by the addition of pseudo-schema
         

         
 Action: id=2008-07-22-3 status=pending Karmarkar to send an E-mail with details of use case (re Issue 8 resolution)
         

         
 Action: id=2008-07-22-4 status=pending Booz to rewrite 11.2.1 to consider Simon N's use case (re Issue 8 resolution)
         

         
 Action: id=2008-08-05-1 status=pending Owner=MikeE due=2008-08-12 Mike E to open discussion of ASSEMBLY-41 on E-mail list
         

         
 Action: id=2008-08-05-2 status=pending Mike Edwards: Material for Issue Assembly-16 to be worked into a full formal resolution.
         

         

            Assembly TC Schedule
         

         

            
 <Martin C> 

            
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200808/msg00013.html

         

         

            
 

            
Above link points to a set of proposed milestones

         

         

            
 

            
Concerns were voiced about the degree of realism in the "all issues resolved" date, the number of open issues and the issue
               resolution rate
            

         

         

            
 

            
There is a concern about the amount of time allowed for resolving issues that arrive in the first public review

         

         

            
 

            
Members wondered what was to happen in June.  A suggestion to go to the beach was well received.

         

         
 Action: chairs to coordinate milestones with the liaison committee
         

         

            New Issues
         

         

            New Issue ASSEMBLY-78 SCA Assembly requires an Annotation to indicate whether a forward operation in a bidirectional interface
               must carry a callback address http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-78
         

         

            
 

            
Nash channels Edwards to explain the issue

         

         
Motion: m:Nash s:Marino Close New Issue Assembly-78 as rejected
         

         

            
 

            
Aye 9 Nay 5 Present 5 motion passes

         

         
Resolution: m:Nash s:Marino Close New Issue Assembly-78 as rejected
         

         

            
 <Martin C> 

            
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/email/archives/200808/msg00017.html

         

         

            Pseudo-schema review
         

         

            
 

            
Nash reviews his review of Appendix A

         

         

            
 

            
There are several points throughout the spec however that several places where pseudo schema have been described as schemas
               or schema snippets
            

         

         
 Action: Nash to prepare a list of such location for use by the editors.
         

         

            Existing issues
         

         

            ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8
         

         

            
 

            
discussion deferred due to pending action

         

         

            ASSEMBLY-41 Conflicting domain-level deployments 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-41
         

         

            
 

            
deferred due to pending action

         

         

            ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37
         

         

            
 

            
deferred due to pending action

         

         

            ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16
         

         

            
 

            
Nash discusses the last email on this topic offered by Edwards.

         

         

            
 

            
ref http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00020.html

         

         

            
 

            
ref http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00039.html

         

         
 Action: Edwards to incorporate the concepts included in the referenced emails for a concrete proposal to close Assembly-16
         

         

            AOB
         

         

            
 

            
straggler roll

         

      

      

         
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