Re: [sca-bindings] Bindings TC Conf Call Raw Minutes

Mike,

OK, well the minutes as posted in draft
show the issue as resolved, with a note to the effect that the resolution
was not recorded.  So if the minutes are approved as you say this
automatically ratifies that clarification.

Regards, Simon

Simon Holdsworth

From:      
 Mike Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB

To:      
 

Date:      
 28/03/2011 14:19

Subject:    
   Re: [sca-bindings]
Bindings TC Conf Call Raw Minutes

Simon, 

I can only apologise - probably too bound up in the debate about the issue
and missed that out. 

Rather than ratify the decision, I think it is simpler to handle it as
part of approviing the minutes - simply approve the

minutes with the amendment to add in the decision to resolve Issue 146.
 The minutes are only draft until approved 

and the approval can handle amendments which correct the minutes.

Yours, Mike 

Dr Mike Edwards

 Mail Point 137, Hursley
Park 

STSM

 Winchester, Hants SO21
2JN 

SCA & Services
Standards 
 United Kingdom

Co-Chair OASIS SCA
Assembly TC 
 

IBM Software Group

  

Phone:

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From:

Simon Holdsworth/UK/IBM@IBMGB

To:



Date:

28/03/2011 14:17

Subject:

Re: [sca-bindings] Bindings TC Conf
Call Raw Minutes

Mike, thanks for minuting this meeting. 

In putting these into the usual format, I notice that the record of "no
objections, motion passes, issue is resolved" for issue BINDINGS-146
is missing from the meeting room text.  It was my recollection that
this motion was unanimously passed as the TC moved on to the next topic
at that point so I'm not sure how this got missed from the minutes.

In the past in such a situation the TC has made a further motion to ratify
the original resolution, so I will include this on the agenda for Thursday's
meeting. 

Regards, Simon 

Simon Holdsworth

STSM, SCA Bindings Architect; Master Inventor; OASIS SCA Bindings TC Chair,
AT&T and Boeing Lab Advocate

MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley Park, Winchester SO21 2JN, UK

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From:        Mike
Edwards/UK/IBM@IBMGB 

To:        "OASIS
Bindings" <>

Date:        24/03/2011
17:47 

Subject:        [sca-bindings]
Bindings TC Conf Call Raw Minutes 

1. Opening 

Introductions 

Scribe assignment 

Top of the scribe list: 

Plamen Pavlov SAP AG 

David Booz IBM 

Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation 

Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited 

Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation 

Bryan Aupperle IBM 

Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc. 

Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation 

Agenda bashing 

2a. Approval of the minutes from 10 March: 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41418/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-10.doc

2b. Approval of the minutes from 17 March: 

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

3. Actions 

20110310-03 [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases doc
described in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html

20110317-1 [Anish Karmakar] Go through Simon's proposal for WS binding
TA/TC and see if all the comments in the TAs have been addressed

20110317-2 [Simon Holdsworth] File a new JMS equivalent of issue 146

4. New Issues 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-149

There's no linkage between the JMS binding spec and the test cases document

5. Open Issues 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-142

Missing links to test artifacts (WS) 

Owner: Editors 

Status: Resolution proposed, comments made. 

Latest email: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-143

Missing links to test artifacts (JMS) 

Owner: Editors 

Status: JMS Version of 142, http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-146

WS Binding Testcases document has no conformance section

Owner: Anish Karmarkar 

Status: Resolution proposed, comments made. 

Latest email: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-147

Conformance Statement missing for the JMS Binding Assertions

Owner: Simon Holdsworth 

Status: Proposed resolution in email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00036.html

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-148

Conformance Statement missing for the Web Services Binding Assertions

Owner: Simon Holdsworth 

Status: Proposed resolution in email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00037.html

6. AOB 

Scribe: Mike Edwards 

Agenda 

Unchanged 

Item 2 Minutes 

Minutes from 10 March 

Minutes are approved without change 

Minutes from 17 March 

Minutes are approved without change 

Item 3 Action Items 

Simon Holdsworth: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00043.html

20110310-03 Pending [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases
doc described in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html

20110317-1 Pending [Anish Karmakar] Go through Simon's proposal for WS
binding TA/TC and see if all the comments in the TAs have been addressed

20110317-2 DONE [Simon Holdsworth] File a new JMS equivalent of issue 146

Item 4 New Issues 

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-149

There's no linkage between the JMS binding spec and the test cases document

Simon describes the issue 

Mike moves to open Issue 149.  Seconded by Brian

Motion passes unanimously 

Issue 149 is Opened 

Simon describes the proposed resolution for Issue 149 - parallels the Web
service binding changes 

Mike agrees that the resolution looks good 

Bryan moves to resolve Issue 149 with the proposal in JIRA Seconded by
Mike. 

Eric Johnson new issue posted: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-150

Motion passes unanimously 

Issue 149 is resolved 

b) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-150

JMS Binding Testcases document has no conformance section

Simon describes the issue, caused by lack of a conformance section for
the testcases doc 

Mike moves to open Issue 150.  Eric seconds. 

Motion passes unanimously 

Issue 150 is opened 

Simon describes the proposed resolution contained in the JIRA

Similar to proposal for the Web services binding 

Bryan moves to resolve Issue 150 with the proposal in JIRA.  Mike
seconds. 

Motion passes unanimously 

Issue 150 is resolved. 

Item 5 Open Issues 

a) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-142

Missing links to test artifacts (WS) 

Owner: Editors 

Status: Resolution proposed, comments made. 

Latest email: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

Simon Holdsworth: From last meeting, proposed text for BINDINGS-142:

Simon Holdsworth: The Test Suite artifacts relating to this document can
be found here: 

http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01.zip

Simon Holdsworth: This text to be added to the "related works"
section of the WS Bindings test cases document 

Bryan - that's consistent with what's been done in other SCA specifications

Bryan moves to resolve Issue 142 with the proposal above in the minutes.
 Mike seconds. 

Motion passes unanimously 

Issue 142 is resolved. 

b) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-143

Missing links to test artifacts (JMS) 

Owner: Editors 

Status: JMS Version of 142, http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

Simon Holdsworth: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00044.html

Email above contains a proposal 

Mike moves to resolve Issue 143 using the proposal contained in the email
 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00044.html.

Eric seconds 

Motion passes unanimously 

Issue 143 is resolved 

c) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-146

WS Binding Testcases document has no conformance section

Owner: Anish Karmarkar 

Status: Resolution proposed, comments made. 

Latest email: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

Simon: Web services version of the issue 143 

- discussed last week and proposal is: 

Simon Holdsworth: Replace conformance section in WS Binding Test Cases
document with: 

The artifacts contained in the 

sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases.zip 

are considered to be authoritative and take precedence over the 

artifacts described in this document. 

This specification defines two targets for conformance:

a) WS Binding Testcases 

b) Web Service Callback (WSCB) Testcases 

An implementation that claims to conform to the requirements of the WS

Binding Testcases MUST be able to run all test cases in Section 2.1 and

Section 2.2, producing the 'Expected Output'. 

An implementation that claims to conform to the WSCB Testcases MUST be

able to run all tests in Section 2.3, producing the 'Expected Output' of

each test case. 

Simon Holdsworth: s/ of each test case././ 

Bryan: a nit but why "of each test case" on the final paragraph

Anish: I think that it should have been in both paragraphs

anish i don't have a strong preference either 

Simon: I suggest removing the extra text 

Amended text: 

Replace conformance section in WS Binding Test Cases document with:

The artifacts contained in the 

sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases.zip 

are considered to be authoritative and take precedence over the 

artifacts described in this document. 

This specification defines two targets for conformance:

a) WS Binding Testcases 

b) Web Service Callback (WSCB) Testcases 

An implementation that claims to conform to the requirements of the WS

Binding Testcases MUST be able to run all test cases in Section 2.1 and

Section 2.2, producing the 'Expected Output'. 

An implementation that claims to conform to the WSCB Testcases MUST be

able to run all tests in Section 2.3, producing the 'Expected Output'

. 

Bryan move to resolve Issue 146 using the latest proposal in the minutes
above.  Seconded by Eric. 

d) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-147

Conformance Statement missing for the JMS Binding Assertions

Owner: Simon Holdsworth 

Status: Proposed resolution in email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00036.html

Simon Holdsworth: Latest email : http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00045.html

Mike Edwards uploaded file: sca-jmsbinding-1.1-testcases-1.0-issue147-v4.pdf

Simon describes the changes present in the latest version of he document
linked above 

Lines 125 - 128 

Lines 220 - 222 

(references) 

Lines 208 - 219 

IETF ref is the most recent version now 

Minor changes in the TestCases sections 

Line 227 

Section 3 cross mapping deleted (moved to appendix)

Appendix A is the material from the Test Assertions doc

wording re-engineed to suit, plus removal of RFC2119 language in inappropriate
places 

Appendix B - Cross mapping 

Appendix C - cross mapping moved from Section 3 

Mike points out that we'd have to apply the resolutions of some of the
previous Issues considered today 

Simon: yes, that's right 

Bryan: This proposal is just to deal with this issue

- the editors want to merge this with other resolutions

Bryan moves to resolve Issue 147 with the proposal in the document sca-jmsbinding-1.1-testcases-1.0-issue147-v4.pdf

Mike seconds 

Motion passes unanimously 

Issue 147 is resolved 

e) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-148

Conformance Statement missing for the Web Services Binding Assertions

Owner: Simon Holdsworth 

Status: Proposed resolution in email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00037.html

Simon describes the proposal contained in the email above

Simon indicates that the title of Appendix B in the proposal document sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01-issue148.odt
to read 

Bryan Aupperle: Appendix A.Cross Mapping of Normative Statements to Assertions
and change Conformance statement to Normative statement in the table heading.

Simon Holdsworth: With the word "conformance" replaced by "normative"
in the title of Appedix B and the table headings 

Simon Holdsworth: in appendix B 

Mike moves to resolve Issue 148 with the proposal in document sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01-issue148.odt
with the title of Appendix B modified to read "Cross Mapping of Normative
Statements to Assertions" and the heading of the ttable in that section
changed to the "Normative statement" 

Bryan secodns 

seconds 

Bryan Aupperle: s/tt/t 

Motion passes unanimously 

Issue 148 is resolved 

AOB 

COB

Yours, Mike 

Dr Mike Edwards

 Mail Point 137, Hursley
Park 

STSM

 Winchester, Hants SO21
2JN 

SCA & Services
Standards 
 United Kingdom

Co-Chair OASIS SCA
Assembly TC 
 

IBM Software Group

  

Phone:

+44-1962 818014

  

Mobile:

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