Bindings TC Conf Call Raw Minutes

1. Opening

Introductions

Scribe assignment

Top of the scribe list:

Plamen Pavlov SAP AG

David Booz IBM

Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation

Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited

Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation

Bryan Aupperle IBM

Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc.

Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation

Agenda bashing

2a. Approval of the minutes from 10
March:

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41418/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-10.doc

2b. Approval of the minutes from 17
March:

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

3. Actions

20110310-03 [Editors] Make the change
to the JMS spec doc + Testcases doc described in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html

20110317-1 [Anish Karmakar] Go through
Simon's proposal for WS binding TA/TC and see if all the comments in the
TAs have been addressed

20110317-2 [Simon Holdsworth] File a
new JMS equivalent of issue 146

4. New Issues

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-149

There's no linkage between the JMS binding
spec and the test cases document

5. Open Issues

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-142

Missing links to test artifacts (WS)

Owner: Editors

Status: Resolution proposed, comments
made.

Latest email: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-143

Missing links to test artifacts (JMS)

Owner: Editors

Status: JMS Version of 142, http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-146

WS Binding Testcases document has no
conformance section

Owner: Anish Karmarkar

Status: Resolution proposed, comments
made.

Latest email: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-147

Conformance Statement missing for the
JMS Binding Assertions

Owner: Simon Holdsworth

Status: Proposed resolution in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00036.html

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-148

Conformance Statement missing for the
Web Services Binding Assertions

Owner: Simon Holdsworth

Status: Proposed resolution in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00037.html

6. AOB

 

Scribe: Mike Edwards

Agenda

Unchanged

Item 2 Minutes

Minutes from 10 March

Minutes are approved without change

Minutes from 17 March

Minutes are approved without change

Item 3 Action Items

Simon Holdsworth: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00043.html

20110310-03 Pending [Editors] Make the
change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases doc described in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html

20110317-1 Pending [Anish Karmakar]
Go through Simon's proposal for WS binding TA/TC and see if all the comments
in the TAs have been addressed

20110317-2 DONE [Simon Holdsworth] File
a new JMS equivalent of issue 146

Item 4 New Issues

http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-149

There's no linkage between the JMS binding
spec and the test cases document

Simon describes the issue

Mike moves to open Issue 149.  Seconded
by Brian

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 149 is Opened

Simon describes the proposed resolution
for Issue 149 - parallels the Web service binding changes

Mike agrees that the resolution looks
good

Bryan moves to resolve Issue 149 with
the proposal in JIRA Seconded by Mike.

Eric Johnson new issue posted: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-150

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 149 is resolved

b) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-150

JMS Binding Testcases document has no
conformance section

Simon describes the issue, caused by
lack of a conformance section for the testcases doc

Mike moves to open Issue 150.  Eric
seconds.

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 150 is opened

Simon describes the proposed resolution
contained in the JIRA

Similar to proposal for the Web services
binding

Bryan moves to resolve Issue 150 with
the proposal in JIRA.  Mike seconds.

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 150 is resolved.

Item 5 Open Issues

a) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-142

Missing links to test artifacts (WS)

Owner: Editors

Status: Resolution proposed, comments
made.

Latest email: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

Simon Holdsworth: From last meeting,
proposed text for BINDINGS-142:

Simon Holdsworth: The Test Suite artifacts
relating to this document can be found here:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01.zip

Simon Holdsworth: This text to be added
to the "related works" section of the WS Bindings test cases
document

Bryan - that's consistent with what's
been done in other SCA specifications

Bryan moves to resolve Issue 142 with
the proposal above in the minutes.  Mike seconds.

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 142 is resolved.

b) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-143

Missing links to test artifacts (JMS)

Owner: Editors

Status: JMS Version of 142, http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

Simon Holdsworth: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00044.html

Email above contains a proposal

Mike moves to resolve Issue 143 using
the proposal contained in the email  http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00044.html.

Eric seconds

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 143 is resolved

c) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-146

WS Binding Testcases document has no
conformance section

Owner: Anish Karmarkar

Status: Resolution proposed, comments
made.

Latest email: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41504/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-17.doc

Simon: Web services version of the issue
143

- discussed last week and proposal is:

Simon Holdsworth: Replace conformance
section in WS Binding Test Cases document with:

The artifacts contained in the 

sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases.zip 

are considered to be authoritative and
take precedence over the 

artifacts described in this document.

This specification defines two targets
for conformance:

a) WS Binding Testcases

b) Web Service Callback (WSCB) Testcases

An implementation that claims to conform
to the requirements of the WS

Binding Testcases MUST be able to run
all test cases in Section 2.1 and

Section 2.2, producing the 'Expected
Output'.

An implementation that claims to conform
to the WSCB Testcases MUST be 

able to run all tests in Section 2.3,
producing the 'Expected Output' of 

each test case.

Simon Holdsworth: s/ of each test case././

Bryan: a nit but why "of each test
case" on the final paragraph

Anish: I think that it should have been
in both paragraphs

anish i don't have a strong preference
either

Simon: I suggest removing the extra
text

Amended text:

Replace conformance section in WS Binding
Test Cases document with:

The artifacts contained in the 

sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases.zip 

are considered to be authoritative and
take precedence over the 

artifacts described in this document.

This specification defines two targets
for conformance:

a) WS Binding Testcases

b) Web Service Callback (WSCB) Testcases

An implementation that claims to conform
to the requirements of the WS

Binding Testcases MUST be able to run
all test cases in Section 2.1 and

Section 2.2, producing the 'Expected
Output'.

An implementation that claims to conform
to the WSCB Testcases MUST be 

able to run all tests in Section 2.3,
producing the 'Expected Output'

.

Bryan move to resolve Issue 146 using
the latest proposal in the minutes above.  Seconded by Eric.

d) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-147

Conformance Statement missing for the
JMS Binding Assertions

Owner: Simon Holdsworth

Status: Proposed resolution in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00036.html

Simon Holdsworth: Latest email : http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00045.html

Mike Edwards uploaded file: sca-jmsbinding-1.1-testcases-1.0-issue147-v4.pdf

Simon describes the changes present
in the latest version of he document linked above

Lines 125 - 128

Lines 220 - 222

(references)

Lines 208 - 219

IETF ref is the most recent version
now

Minor changes in the TestCases sections

Line 227

Section 3 cross mapping deleted (moved
to appendix)

Appendix A is the material from the
Test Assertions doc

wording re-engineed to suit, plus removal
of RFC2119 language in inappropriate places

Appendix B - Cross mapping

Appendix C - cross mapping moved from
Section 3

Mike points out that we'd have to apply
the resolutions of some of the previous Issues considered today

Simon: yes, that's right

Bryan: This proposal is just to deal
with this issue

- the editors want to merge this with
other resolutions

Bryan moves to resolve Issue 147 with
the proposal in the document sca-jmsbinding-1.1-testcases-1.0-issue147-v4.pdf

Mike seconds

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 147 is resolved

e) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-148

Conformance Statement missing for the
Web Services Binding Assertions

Owner: Simon Holdsworth

Status: Proposed resolution in email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00037.html

Simon describes the proposal contained
in the email above

Simon indicates that the title of Appendix
B in the proposal document sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01-issue148.odt
to read

Bryan Aupperle: Appendix A.Cross Mapping
of Normative Statements to Assertions and change Conformance statement
to Normative statement in the table heading.

Simon Holdsworth: With the word "conformance"
replaced by "normative" in the title of Appedix B and the table
headings

Simon Holdsworth: in appendix B

Mike moves to resolve Issue 148 with
the proposal in document sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01-issue148.odt
with the title of Appendix B modified to read "Cross Mapping of Normative
Statements to Assertions" and the heading of the ttable in that section
changed to the "Normative statement"

Bryan secodns

seconds

Bryan Aupperle: s/tt/t

Motion passes unanimously

Issue 148 is resolved

AOB

COB

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